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AT&T and AT&T MVNOs Compared

The sleepy world of AT&T Mobile Virtual Network Operators (MVNOs) has beecome extremely competve over the last few years. There have always been a number of these virtual operators reselling AT&T minutes and texts. They used to mostly offer pay as you voice and SMS for less than AT&T along with low cost international calling. but no or horrendously overpriced data.

The first sign of change was the rise a couple of years ago of $40/month unlimited talk and text plans. Data if it was available at all was still pricey.

Then, AT&T must have started giving its MVNOs better data rates as several of them started to offer unlimited voice and text plans for $50/month or less that included some data. The data allowances started out at a paltry 25 MB, which quickly became 100 MB. Now we have Straight Talk and Net10 offering unlimited voice and messaging and "unlimited" data for $45 and $50 per month respectively. Users have discovered that Straight Talk and NETs definition of "unlimited data" is actually about 2 GB/month but that's still the best current deal for voice, messaging and datadata on the AT&T network

Here's a table comparing AT&T's own monthly plans with those of the MVNOs that offer monthly plans with data.

Plan Minimum Monthly Cost Sim Cost Voice SMS MMS Data
NET10 750 Minute Plan 1 $25 N/A 750 "minutes" (also used for texts and data) 1 minute each 3.5 minutes each (average) 1 minute per minute of browsing
AT&T $25 Monthly $25 2  free 250 minutes (overage 10¢/min, can renew early) unlimited unlimited 1¢ per 5 KB ($2/MB) 3
50 MB $5 200 MB $15 1 GB $25
Straight Talk All You Need 4 $30 N/A 1000 1000 (SMS and MMS combined) 1000 (SMS and MMS combined) 30 MB (hard cap, overage not available)
good2Go Talk & Text Unlimited$30 $9.99 unlimited unlimited ? 30¢/MB
Airvoice Talk & Text $30-$55 $4.99 unlimited unlimited 10¢ (unlimited included with any data plan) $30 Plan none,
$35 Plan includes 100 MB,
$40 500 MB, $55 1 GB, overage 33¢/MB
H2O Unlimited 5 $30-$60 $9.99 unlimited  unlimited unlimited $30 Plan none,
$40 Plan includes 100 MB,
$50 500 MB,  $60 2 GB (throttled after 500 MB),
overage 15¢/MB
Jolt Unlimited $30-$60 $10 unlimited unlimited unlimited (data plan required) $30 Plan none,
$50 Plan includes 500 MB,
$60 1 GB,
overage: 30¢/MB
Red Pocket Unlimited $29.99-$59.99 $9.99 unlimited unlimited unlimited $29.99 Plan includes 10 MB,
$39.99, 100 MB,
$49.99, 500 MB,for
$54.99, 1 GB
$59.99, 2 GB
overage $10/10 MB, $25/25 MB
Pure TalkUSA Unlimited $34.95-$43.95 free unlimited unlimited $34.95 Plan - none, $43.95 plan includes 600 MMS $34.95 Plan - none, $43.95 plan includes 1 GB,
overage $10 for 100MB + 100 MMS
good2Go Unlimited $40-$50 $9.99 unlimited unlimited 100 included $40 Plan 250 MB,
$45 Plan 500 MB,
$50 Plan 1 GB,
overage $10 500MB. $20 500 MB
Straight Talk Unlimited $45.00 N/A 6 unlimited unlimited unlimited "unlimited" (under 1 GB hidden cap)
NET10 Unlimited $50.00 $9.99 unlimited unlimited unlimited 1.5 GB
AT&T Unlimited $50-$75 3  free unlimited unlimited unlimited unlimited for feature phones.
Smartphones: 50 MB $5 200 MB $15 1 GB $25
AT&T Smartphone Plan $65  free unlimited unlimited unlimited 1 GB, overage 5¢/MB
1 Must use a NET10 non-smartphone
2 AT&T charges an E911 fee of up to $1.50/month in some states
3 1¢ per 5 KB data is not available to smartphone users, unused data in $5, $15, $25 add-ons rolls over if another package is added before expiration.
4 Must use a Straight Talk non-smartphone
5 H2O data overage can only be funded by purchasing a $10 "Feature Card" which can also be used for international text messaging at 15¢/text. Feature Cards expire at end of the plan month.
H2O reportedly terminates the service of users who talk or text "too much" with no refunds for used days of service. A few examples:from Howard Forums, RipoffReport.com, scambook.com, and another consumer complaint site.
6 Straight Talk branded phones only. SIMs not available.

AT&T's own plan is actually pretty good, especially if you use data on a non-smartphone. The MVNO's prices are better for smartphone users and for anyone who has no interest in using data.

All the above MVNOs have pay as you go plans as well. The table below compares them. With a lower monthly cost and cheaper per use SMS than AT&T's own pay as you go plans they can be a good choice for light users. However at 30¢ to $10/MB, the MVNO's pay as you go data prices range from overpriced to ridiculous. The same companies offer 100-250MB for $4-$10 additional on their unlimited plans. That's 4 to 10 cents per MB. Why on earth does pay as you go data cost 3 to 100 times as much as the same thing tied to an unlimited plan?

PlanMinimum Monthly Cost Voice SMS MMS Data
Air Voice Pay as you Go $3.33 3 $0.08-$0.10 $0.10 $0.20 33¢/MB
Jolt Mobile $3.33 3 $0.10 $0.10 $0.10 30¢/MB
Red Pocket Mobile $8.33 $0.10 $0.10 $0.20 30¢/MB
AT&T $8.33 1 $0.10 $0.20 each,
200 - $4.99,
1000 - $9.99,
unlimited - $19.99
$0.25 each,
200 - $4.99,
1000 - $9.99,
unlimited - $19.99
1¢ per 5 KB ($2/MB) 2
H20 Minute $10.00 $0.05 $0.05 $0.10 30¢/MB
Air Voice $10 Plan $10.00 $0.04 $0.02 $0.10 33¢/MB
PureTalk USA Flex Plan $10.00 $0.05 $0.05 N/A N/A
good2Go $20.00 $0.05 $0.05 ? N/A
1 AT&T deducts up to $1.50/month for an E911 fee in some states
2 1¢ per 5 KB data is not available to smartphone users
Air Voice & Jolt Pay As You Go Fees: A $1.00 maintenance fee is deducted from your balance every month.

Updated 18-May-2013: Added new $45 good2Go plan

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  1. great comparison, more people should know about this

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  2. Really an excellent overview, have you written or are you considering writing similar articles on other networks' MVNOs?

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  3. Be careful of the H2O "Unlimited" plan, its very limited to 5000 minutes a and 5000 texts a month.

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  4. Do these 5 companies each require you to buy their own phones to use on their network? Can I use my own unlocked GSM phone?

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  5. You can use any phone that works with AT&T including AT&T locked phones and all unlocked GSM phones that support the 800 and 1900 MHz bands.

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  6. I've got an at&t branded Samsung Focus S with Windows Phone 7.5 (Mango). Would these MVNO's allow the Internet Sharing (tethering) with their data plans?

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    1. If tethering works on the Focus S on AT&T it should work on the MVNOs.

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  7. I had the Pure Talk unlimited talk and text plan and all I had to do was order the sim card for my LG Vue that I had with AT&T. The service wasn't bad at all, it was on the AT&T network. The only thing I really didn't like was that you had to set it up for auto pay from a debit or credit card. All in all the service was good and their CS was also very good when you actually got to talk to someone, I always spoke to someone that spoke english not broken english. Nice and cheap alternative to a contract plan. We live off the beaten path and always had good service, never had any dropped calls.

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    1. Pure Talk is good but they don't offer data on pay as you go.

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  8. No mention of StraightTalk? Buy a SIM card from StraightTalk for $15 and specify an AT&T phone during signup. $45+tax Unlimited EVERYTHING using AT&T towers.

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    1. Straight Talk is a great deal but is kind of a special case as they are at least 20 times bigger than any of these MVNOs and aren't an AT&T only MVNO.

      I've covered Straight Talk extensively in a dozen or so posts on Prepaid Phone News and didn't feel the need to repeat that information here.

      BTW, Straight Talk's data isn't truly unlimited (nobody's is) They will throttle you or terminate your service if you use much more than 100 MB/day or 2 GB/month.

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    2. They have recently lightened up on this. I used well over 3GB of data and still had HSPA+ and didn't get throttled or shut off. It's a case by case basis. If you do get throttled, just call and they will reset it for you, no questions asked.

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    3. Not so sure about that. I used to call in for customers every once in awhile to fix data connectivity. Policy has changed and they won't even touch the settings else they can get fired for it. This might change the future but at this time all straight talk att customers are at the mercy of att throttling.

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  9. Page Plus is great and they the run on Verizon's network!

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  10. So, what's that got to do with Att mvnos?

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  11. I want to buy a Samsung Galaxy Note, but am undecided between the intl version (N7000) or the US AT&T version i717. The intl version is (in my opinion) a better phone for several reasons: Dual-core 1.4 Ghz Exynos processor vs the 1.5Ghz dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon, the Maili GPU, the physical home button on the bottom front of the phone, no AT&T junk, and the FM radio. I have read that it will definately work with HSPA+ on Straight Talk. But no support for T-Mobile 3G data or 4G LTE. Also, it is is my understanding that this intl version will come with no US warranty. Thus I am leaning towards the US version i717 due to the warranty and the 4G capability with...? My understanding is that if I get the US version, I must get one of the MVNOs mentioned in your post above, specifically people in my area (Miami, FL) are recommending H2O. I would prefer to go with Straight Talk but am not sure it will get anything more than 2G GSM. My question is which phone version and which carrier should I get that will give me a decent US warranty and 4G? Thank you for your help. Your posts have been very helpful.

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    1. Both the AT&T and International Notes will get HSPA+ on any AT&T MVNO including Straight Talk or H20. They will both also work on AT&T's pricey prepaid

      HSPA+ is what T-Mobile's 4G is and what AT&T used to call 4G until they got LTE. No prepaid operator offers LTE at this time.

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    2. I am not certain where you are getting your data from but the Qualcomm processor simply blows the Samsung Exynos processor away. Samsung has a history of slow, unreliable, faulty procesors. The Exynos line in particular has problems with over heating and excessive power consumption. Unable to match the processing power of chips from Qualcomm or Texas Instruments, Samsung is dialing up the speed in their chips ( a manufacturer version of overclocking ) to unsafe levels in an attempt to maintain some form of parity with the competition. You will notice even Samsung has not used their own chips in most of their smart phones over the last several years. Nvidia is almost as bad. This is why I prefer to buy a phone with a T.I or Qualcomm processor although I expect Intel's new mobile device processors to be very strong. If you want integrated LTE you can forget all the current Samsung processors as well.

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    3. AT&T still calls them both 4G because they are. One is called "Nationwide 4G" and the other is "4G LTE"

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    4. True, 4G has become a meaningless marketing term.

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  12. I'm sorry but I am still a bit confused. So I could buy the Intl version or the AT&T version and use either one with Straight Talk or H2O? The company I wish to by the AT&T version is telling me that "While we can guarantee that
    the device will work with Straight Talk's GSM
    frequencies, we cannot
    guarantee that it will work with their 3G/data
    frequencies as Straight
    Talk uses T-Mobile's 3G network which requires the
    use of the 1700MHz
    band" I am interpreting this to mean that if I get Straight Talk with the AT&T Note I may not get HSPA+. But it seems you are saying otherwise. I am misinterpreting something. Bottom line is I want to buy the AT&T US version Note phone from an ebay seller named devices_now_inc with a 98.3% positive feedback from 4768 people, so they seem reputable, but I don't want any problems once I receive the phone. The phone is a great price at $499.77, best I have found for Intl or AT&T version. They say they will include a sales invoice in the box for proof of purchase. What do you think?

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    1. When you buy a SIM from Straight Talk you have a choice of an AT&T SIM, a T-Mobile SIM or a "SIM for unlocked phones".

      For the Galaxy Note (either version) you need to buy the Straight Talk AT&T SIM which will work for 3G provided you are in a location where AT&T provides 3G.

      Straight Talk's answer doesn't make much sense unless they though you were asking about the Straight Talk T-Mobile SIM.

      The eBay seller you mentioned looks OK to me.

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  13. The quote I gave you was from the ebay seller of the phone not Straight Talk. Sorry for any confusion. The ebay seller told me today that the AT&T Note will work fine on Straight Talk ie. 3G, in a location where AT&T provides 3G, just like you said. I live in Miami and AT&T provides 3G here. Ok, so I will buy the AT&T version of the Note from this ebay seller as he also assures me that a receipt and warranty card will be in the box. So of all the MVNOs which do you recommend I use with this phone? I'm not married to any one of them. I thought Straight Talk was really good, but upon more investigation, H20 seems good as well. I called their customer support and they told me exactly what I need to do to transfer my current cell number from T-Mobile to H20. I understand Straight Talk has poor customer service, but their webiste directions seem very clear. H2O is offering a special $50 plan with 500mb internet and 1000 free minutes intl calling (which I won't use except for Canada). Stores in Miami who sell the AT&T Note all say to use it on H20, but I don't trust anything they say!

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    1. I've never used H2O but I hear more complaints about them than any other MVNO. Maybe they have gotten better lately but they have a bad reputation for poor customer support and cancelling accounts with no refunds for using too many of their "unlimited" voice minutes and texts.

      Straight talk support has problems too but they are many times larger than H2O and seem to generate fewer complaints. You also get more data for less money with Straight Talk than H2O.

      The beauty of prepaid, especially with AT&T MVNOs, is that there are lots of choices. If one MVNO isn't working for you can switch to another relatively easily.

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  14. OK, thanks for the tips. I think I'll start with Straight Talk since you do get more data for less money from them. I'm sorry for the basic question, but how do I switch all of my stored phone numbers from a SIM purchased at Straight Talk (for example) to a SIM purchased at another MVNO? Thank you again for all of your help and advice!

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    1. On Androi, contacts are stored in phone memory not on the SIM by default. So your contacts will still be there if change SIMs.

      Also, on Android contacts are synced to your Google account. So if you ever lose them, they will be restored as soon as you log into Google.

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  15. Ok, great! Do I need to disable or uninstall any carrier specific or branded applications that may be on the Samsung Galaxy Note i717? I'll let you know how it all goes. Thanks again for your wonderful information!

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    1. All you need to do is change the data access point settings to the ones shown on the card that comes with the Straight Talk SIM.

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  16. Yes. I have all of the APN settings for AT&T from the Straight Talk website and the ebay seller gives a nice explaination of exactly how to change the settings with the phone on his ebay listing. I will order the phone tomorrow and try to swing by Walmart to buy the Straight Talk card. I'll let you know how it all works out once I get it all set up. Thank you again. You have helped me out tremendously!

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  17. Thank you so much Yeswap for this fantastic article!!! Right now i was worried about losing my att contract but these prices are so fantastic!!! You have gave me and my iphone 4 great hope!!! THANK YOU!!! Please keep up the great work:)

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  18. Straight talk is a scam. They called me in the middle of the night, like 3am, and told me that I used over a 100mb that day. I was startled to death, confused like something bad happened to family or something. It was really disturbing. I didnt even use over 1gb for that month. I just happen to watch a few videos on youtube that day. Then they startle the hell out of me for using 112mb. Give me a break. I cut them off. Someone should sue them for false advertisement.

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    1. If you read their Terms of Service, they tell you that prohibited uses include streaming audio and video.

      The agreement says you can use it for checking email, surfing the internet, accessing corporate intranets and downloading songs or apps. Streaming is out.

      It stinks, but that's what they say.

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  19. Hi Yeswap,
    out of these five companies, which ones offer auto refill?


    Thanks

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    1. AT&T, Pure Talk, H2O and Red Pocket offer auto refill. Jolt and Aitvoice don't.

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  20. Hi Yeswap,
    thanks so much for the informative article. I am moving to the US from the UK in a week and was wondering if I can bring my legally unlocked iphone 3GS with me and buy a SIM from one of these companies, or maybe Straight Talk, and if it will still work? Do I buy an 'unlocked GSM SIM'?
    Thank you!

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    1. You can use any of the AT&T MVNOs mentioned in the post with an unlocked iPhone. If you go with Straight Talk, order the AT&T SIM. I don't trust the "unlocked" SIM as it could be either a T-Mobile or AT&T SIM and you don't know what you're getting. All Straight Talk BYOD SIMs are unlocked.

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  21. Does anybody know of a way to turn off balance notifications on H2O?

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  22. Hi Yeswap,

    How would start my own MVNO company through ATT or T-MOBILE? I see some opportunity here.

    Thanks,

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    1. Starting an MVNO is not for the faint of heart. Start by contacting the business development department at AT&T an/or T-Mobile. A solid business plan and a sizable investment will be required, I've seen estimates of up to a million dollars to launch.

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  23. Hi Yeswap, how do you turn off balance notifications on H2O minute plan?


    Thanks

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    1. H2O won't do it. If you are using an Android phone the free Balance Update / USSD blocker app in the Play Store will block the messages.

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  24. Can I use an unlocked at&t iphone 4 with the data plan for pure talk or do i need to have the phone unlocked...thanks

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  25. can i use a LOCKED at&t iphone 4 with pure talk's data plan or do i need to have the phone unlocked? Thanks

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    1. Yes, phones locked to AT&T will work on Pure Talk and other AT&T MVMOs without needing to be unlocked.

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  26. This article helps a lot . The problem for me is that my phone supports 3G on wcdma 900/2100. Do you know if it is possible for me to get 3G support from one mvno (tmobile or att?)? Actually I am now using att prepared plan. On tmicell website, I refilled $100 on my att account by just paying $90, tax included. So the $50+ att unlimited prepaid plan actually costs me $45 per month.

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    1. 900 and 2100 Mhz are not used for 3G in the US, only 850 and 1990 (AT&T) or 1700 and soon 1900 (T-Mobile).

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  27. Yeswap...how come you know so much? Also which MVMO company do you personally use?

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    1. I use PlatinumTel, Boost, T-Mobile and Page Plus.

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  28. Hi Yeswap,
    T-Mobile and sprint are generally cheaper than verizon and att. Why is that, is it just because verizon and att are bigger companies? do sprint and tmobile customers miss out on anything besides rollover and mobile to mobile? also, why is sprint native coverage the smallest of the four, even smaller than tmobile when tmobile is the smaller company? Is there a particular reasoning to this? also, how are tmobile's data speeds in the foster city, CA and san mateo, CA (around 30 minutes away from san francisco)areas compared to AT&T? how are sprint and verizon's data speeds in foster city and san mateo? I know that ATT and Verizon have lte here now, right? Thank you very much yeswap you are awesome.

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    1. Verizon and AT&T are able to charge more because they have larger networks and are seen as the market leaders.

      Sprint native coverage actually about the same size as T-Mobile's. AT&T and Verizon have larger networks because they are older and were able get much of the available spectrum first. They also have more funds for acquiring small regional carriers.

      I'm not aware of any comparative speed test results for Foster City and San Mateo. If I'd had to guess I think T-Mobile would be the fastest followed by AT&T, Verizon and Sprint in that order. Verizon and AT&T's LTE is not available to prepaid users. Sprints WiMAX is as fast as T-Mobile's HSPA+ but there are big gaps in WiMAX coverage.

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  29. Hi Yeswap,

    Thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge on the subject with the ignorant masses like myself!

    I am in many ways a minimalist and as such am interested in a European model Samsung, (GT-B2710), for basic talk and text usage only. I have located new ones from a couple of differrent U.S. sellers on E-Bay at a reasonable price. Once company ,NPS in Utah, doesn't know whether their phones are unlocked or not since they only buy random wholesale lots of electronics for resale. The other company describes their phones as "carrier specific to Cincinatti Bell", which I assume means locked. If either of these are actually locked versions, could I still use them for AT&T, Jolt, etc.... by simply installing the SIM, or would they need to be unlocked first?

    I have found numerous offerings that are definitely unlocked, but they are in the $120 range as compared to $80 for the possibly locked phones previously mentioned.

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    1. If it's not sold as unlocked, the phone is almost certainly locked. A phone locked to Cincinatti Bell would need to be unlocked to use a AT&T, Jolt or other AT&T MVNOs SIM. I recommend buying an unlocked phone or one locked to AT&T.

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  30. Thanks for your excellent website and great info.

    Thoughts on consumer cellular (as they have in the news recently from consumer reports)?

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    1. I have no personal experience with Consumer Cellular. They apparently to have an excellent reputation for customer service but prices seem really high. Might be a good choice to someone who values quality service and is willing to pay for it.

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    2. Their prices improved recently and are reasonable now, IMO.

      They have low-cost data options with their pay-go plans. You cannot get data with PureTalk Flex,
      and Consumer data rates are much less than H20, AirVoice and Red Pocket. This makes Consumer a good option for locked GSM iPhones or other AT&T locked devices for data use.

      PureTalk also has good customer service, in my experience.

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    3. $45 for 150-4000-1GB on Consumer Cellular will work well for some people who want good customer service.

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  31. PureTalk Flex plan ($10 Base plan or higher) price for sms is 3.3c, not 5c.

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  32. PureTalk Flex plan voice rates now range from 4.4-7.7c/min, not 7-10c.

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    1. Thanks for the heads up. I've updated the post.

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  33. H20 minute plan has a minimum monthly avg charge of $8.33 if you spend $100 for a year.

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  34. PureTalk plans are autopay only, with a credit card. Their eBill options just change whether and how you get a receipt:
    None, Email, Text, Email and Text.

    When you need more minutes in the middle of a billing cycle on the Flex Plan, you pay a lower rate. EG, 195 min for $10, vs. 130 min. You might as well set the higher $20 Flex limit in advance, since you pay the same price for the same total minutes, 325. These minutes roll over every month when you pay.
    If your credit card is refused, you do not lose your minutes when your account is suspended (you might not know your charge did not go through if you decide not to get an eBill - they would not contact you under this option). You get your minute balance back when you make your next payment.

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  35. Have you ever done a comparison of T-Mobile MVNO's?


    Steve

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  36. Oddly enough, this doesn't cover straighttalk, which does $45/month for unlimited voice, text and data. Their customer support is moderate to bad, but T-mobile is the only company where I'd rate CS as good, anyway. Only problem with ST is that it doesn't handle MMS on all phones (iPhones have to jailbreak or follow some directions that are pretty complicated, and which I haven't tried, since my phone is jailbroken, and also I don't use MMS anyway).

    But I've been using them for a month so far, and it's been fine. And unlimited everything for $45 is pretty fine.

    Note that some folks have reported being throttled after about 3 GB in a month. I can't say much about that, since I can't get my usage that high anyway.

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  37. Stay away from StraightTalk $45 "Unlimited" talk, text and web. It's bogus and fraud! They throttle the data to not even 5mb. And after the 1st month it was throttled, it didn't restore the following month. I did not need data anyway so I wanted to downgrade to the $30 plan for calls and texting only but I couldn't. I wasted 3 months paying $45 for calls and texting only. I finally switched to H20 $30 calls and text only plan.

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    1. It's true that Straight Talk will throttle you if you use over 2 GB in a month. Once you're throttled you do need to contact them to get speeds restored. It's not ideal but no one else gives you unlimited voice and messaging and 2 GB/month for $45 month, especially not on AT&T.

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  38. What about the net10 unlimited for $50? Do they throttle you like straight talk? and are you restricted from streaming too?

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    1. NET10 and Straight Talk are the same company, same terms of service, same policies.

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  39. AirVoice has added 100 International SMS and unlimited incoming International SMS and MMS to its $35 and up monthly plans.

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  40. AirVoice also includes $10 worth of International long distance to its $35 and up monthly plans.

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  41. It seems that Straight Talk has taken there "AT&T Compatible" sim card option off the website and just has the "T-Mobile Compatible" sim card option. Am I missing something?

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    1. That's correct. Story here: AT&T SIMs Gone From Straight Talk Site, Possibly Discontinued The AT&T Straight Talk SIMs are still available Walmart.com

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  42. I have a question. I have a SGH-i747 (ATT Samsung GS3). I'm currently with Simple MObile. I want to go with a ATT MVNO ofcourse to get the best out of my phone. I need 4g or H+ speeds and 1GB data. Need by bill to be $50/under. Any recommendations? Thanks

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    1. The only AT&T MVNOs that meet your requirements are Straight Talk and NET10.

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  43. Edits for your Table for AT&T monthly plans:

    1. AT&T Unlimited plans should use footnote ***, not ****
    2. You could add the data overage rate of 5c/mb for the $65 AT&T smartphone plan. This is from the AT&T GoPhone Terms, http://www.att.com/shop/legalterms.html?toskey=prepaidPlanTerms&
    3. The AT&T $25/mo. plan can be renewed early to provide additional talk minutes (extra 83c/day for each 'early' day). This might be worth a *note.

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    1. You are welcome.
      One other tip for AT&T:
      The data options for $25 and $50 plans carry over for another 30 day period if you have not used all the data and then renew the plan.
      E.G., if you need 500mb per month, you would pay an average of $37.50 and $62.50, respectively, over 2 months.

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    2. I believe note *** under monthly plans should state that >unused< data rolls over if a new plan is added before expiration.

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  44. When changing over from AT&T to one of these MVNOs, would you expect the same quality signal and technology as AT&T? Or does AT&T somehow limit what is made available to MVNOs? For example, I would like to buy an iPhone 5, but would hope that all technology available to me as an AT&T customer would be available to me as a customer of one of these MVNOs, say Red Pocket, Consumer Cellular or TracFone.

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    1. You won't get LTE with any of the AT&T MVNOs.

      I've seen reports by users that their data speeds were throttled unexpectedly on Straight Talk, NET10, Airvoice and H2O. I've personally experienced throttling on Red Pocket. The throttle usually gets fixed when you call in and complain but it seems like either AT&T or the MVNO is turning the throttle on to see if the user notices.

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  45. I've been using an iPhone 5 with straight talk for 3 months now, I'm a moderate to heavy data user and haven't received and calls although I've noticed some throttling by the end of the service month. It's usually restored after refill. Average speeds for HSPA+ 4.5mb down 1mb up. Which works for me. For $45 a month it's a pretty good deal. Can't beat that price. Only thing that sucks is mms but I was able to make it work with the sim swap method until the iOS 6 jailbreak came out.

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  46. Does anyone know whether the AT&T gophone data add-on will roll over as many months as it takes to use up the data, if you renew the $25 plan before it expired each month?
    For example, if you buy 1GB and use 100mb/month, would it last 10 months?
    This would mean the $25 plan with 100mb data would cost $27.50/month (plus any taxes and fees).

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    1. Data only rolls over if you add another data add-on before the current one expires. You can use any denomination of add-on to trigger rollover. The best strategy for light use is to start with a $25 add-on and then add a $5 one every 30 days until you run low on data and then add another $25 one.

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    2. Thanks! So in my example of 100mb/month, the original $25, 1gb add-on would last 20 months (1gb/50mb), and the average monthly plan cost would be $$31.25: $25 plan +$1.25(50mb) +$5 new add-on (50mb).

      I think $25 GoPhone is the lowest cost 250 minute plan on AT&T, when 100mb of data is used under your strategy.
      GoPhone should be the same price as the AirVoice $35 monthly plan when you use 287 minutes, assuming you ran out of the 250 minutes and renewed the monthly plan early. Fees could affect this comparison.

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  47. Hi Yeswap,
    Which ATT prepaid service allows you to choose your own number?

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    1. The only was to choose your own number is to transfer one you already have. They will all let you do that if your number can be ported.

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  48. Two Questions about Airvoice because looking at switching my iPhone to the $40 plan (unlimited voice, unlimited text, 500MB data).

    1. is Airvoice on 3G?

    2. would balance notifications be off for this $40 plan? would think there would be no balance notification for the unlimited voice and unlimited text. but wondering if my iPhone would be constantly beeping since the data is only up to 500MB on the $40 plan.

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    1. 1. Yes, Airvoice offers 3G service. Depending on your iPhone, you may also get faster service that AT&T calls 4G.
      2. Your iPhone will beep when you get email or messages unless you turn cellular data off or change notification volume to Off. Once you run out of 500mb, it would stop beeping unless you were on WiFi. You can buy more data if you run out, but it is very expensive, 33c/mb. You will usually be better off to call and ask them to restart your monthly plan early (+$1.33/day you renewed early).

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    2. I'm pretty sure the USSD messages notifying you of data used are only on the Airvoice pay as yo go and $10 monthly plans, not the unlimited ones.

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  49. So I'm considering going with Net10's AT&T sim to use in my Droid DNA. I read about the new 1.5gb hard cap. By hard cap does that mean no overages? If I burn up 1.5gb, then I just have no data til the next billing cycle but still have unlimited minutes and SMS/MMS? As a side note, how is the coverage of Net10 (AT&T)? Their site just has a default stock image coverage map. How comparable is it to AT&T postpaid? How is domestic data roaming handled? Does it eat up the same 1.5gb or does it have a small cap solely on domestic roaming?

    Thanks!

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    1. The hard cap means no overages, when you hit 1.5 GB data is disabled until your next plan month starts. SMS will still work w/o data but MMS won't. NET10 AT&T coverage is similar to AT&T postpaid.

      Officially, there's no data roaming, but sometimes it works anyway. As there isn't supposed to be any roaming data there's no published information on its cap. I suspect that if you use enough roaming data to be noticeable to Straight Talk or the carrier you are roaming on it they will cut it off.

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  50. So I read NET10's terms and conditions about using data and one part confuses me:
    The NET10 Unlimited Plan MAY NOT be used for any other purpose. Examples of prohibited uses include...(iii) uploading, downloading or streaming of audio or video programming or games...

    So I wouldn't be able to watch Netflix or YouTube or download apps??? What is the point?

    And furthermore, it doesn't look like Netflix supports BYOD plans or sell SIM-cards only, so how would I be able to use my smartphone?

    I already have AT&T, but I really don't like paying almost $90 for service when I could pay $60 for the same service.

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    1. TOS are CWA documents, Net10's also says they can terminate your service at any time for any reason. Other carrier's TOS contain similar clauses. The worst that actually happens to TOS violators on Net10 is throttling for the remained of the plan month. You are unlikely to get throttled for downloading apps or a little streaming provided you keep total data usage under 100 MB/day, 1.5 GB/month on AT&T SIMs. The limits are much higher with Net10 T-Mobile SIMs.

      Net10 T-Mobile SIM cards are available from Net10. Net10 has discontinued the sale of AT&T SIM cards in most markets but they are still available inexpensively from Amazon and eBay.

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  51. So my question is this. Which AT&T MVNO has the FASTEST DATA? Do anyone of the AT&T MVNO's use the new LTE or just the HSPA+? I am ready to buy an unlocked phone and port my number over to an AT&T MVNO.

    Which MVNO would YOU GO WITH?

    Thank you!

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    1. AT&T LTE is not available from any MVNO. HSPA+ speeds should be the same across all of the AT&T MVNOS.

      Net 10 is the best value but customer support is poor with long hold times and there seem to be more issues with botched provisioning and lost numbers with them. Airvoice and Red Pocket cosr more but have better support, fewer issues.

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  52. I have several questions and really feel that you might be the person that can help me. I purchased the GS3 from Sprint on black Friday, nothing but issues. Sprint sent Airwave, then offered to let me outta contract (Unheard of I thought due to new phones with contracts for 2 more yrs) I have had 4 months to try and figure out what is the best solution for me and other members on plan I pay for. I purchases the Iphone 5 and airtime from Wal-Mart after researching and really feeling that this plan was best, after 1 1/2 hrs and speaking to 3 CS found out that on March 1st that they would shut off data after 1.5mb..not great for someone that had just spent $1500. Wal-Mart took all back!!! Yippee!! but..back to trying to figure out what to do now? I've spent countless hours on XDA, and Howard forums, Wiki, from trying to figure out if I should unlock my phones with CDMA (I meet all criteria in order to obtain unlock LEGALLY!) BUT..which MNVO would be best? I know Verizon and ATT are strong in my area, Kingston Ga 30145. I have come to the conclusion that the more information that I find the more confused I become. I have a very broad spectrum of what I need from the company. I currently have 3 lines on Sprint pay $170, 2 smart phones, 1 basic, with 23% discount. Problem, no service for myself and having to use WiFi to get most out of phone, the basic phone is my father in law who roughly uses 120 minutes and thats it, a 19yr old that has rooted and now receives no data or mms off of Sprints network, and my 11yr old that has Virgin mobile.
    I have spent so many days and nights trying to figure out where, how, which company, which phone, where to get phone, do I unlock or buy unlocked, if its unlocked will the MVNO accept, if I unlock will I brick or overclock??? I just want someone to help me see through the mess. I did look at Wiki's list of all MVNO's and researched several but still lost. EVERY TIME I think I have it figured out, and think MVNO is the way to go...by the time I calculate it I'm over $200, cept Page plus. I know this isn't all related to your topic, but I have seen you on some many blogs, forums, and topics that I know that you have the information and can guide me where I am not getting cursed at for being a noob, or walking into a carrier and knowing more than they do..PLEASE HELP!! The GS3 is mine to keep, I have 2 EVO's 4 G (1 clean ESN, 1 not)all Sprint, and a Kyocera Rise (11yr old VM.)Price is #1, Coverage, Phone options, Customer Service. Thank you!!!!!!

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    1. So you have a bunch of Sprint phones and poor Sprint coverage. It's possible to flash the Sprint phones to work on a Verizon MVNO like PagePlus or TalkForGood but the process is difficult. It would probably be best to have the phones flashed professionally if you can find a local shop who can do it and offers a money back guarantee. Or sell the Sprint phones and get Verizon 3G ones that will work on PagePlus or TalkForGood.

      Incidentally, their is no 1.5 GB cap on StraightTalk's Verizon based phones, including the iPhone 5. The cap only applies to StraighTalk AT&T based phones. StraightTalk's support is pretty bad and feeding customers misinformation is common. If you can live with the support issues, a Verizon based StraightTalk phone will provide the best value.

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  53. Could you point me in the right direction, to TalkForGood phones? I'm still somewhat confused on exactly how to decide which phones if brought work on which network. Straight Talk is pretty clear. I'm curious if I have access to Verizon's Iphone4 or 4's, if they would work without doing anything. Do I just have to call and have the carrier check the ESN? I apologize for all the questions. I like TalkForGood more than Page Plus. I have stronger ATT towers than any other network, which is the reason I was reading this topic. Do you know which phones are the best on those carriers? I am not worried about 2 out of the 4 people. Thank you again!!

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    1. TalkForGood accepts any clean ESN Verizon phone that's not an LTE or prepaid device. An iPhone 4 or 4S would work. You can check an ESN by calling Verizon. I imagine calling TalkForGood would work too.

      In my opinion,the best AT&T MVNOs for customer support are Airvoice, PureTalkUSA and Red Pocket. The best values are NET10 and RedPocket's $55 plan. Any clean IMEI AT&T or unlocked GSM phone should work on any AT&T MVNO.

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  54. Thank you! That was very clear and to the point. I believe that stacking the different options from the MVNO's even if different carriers is going to be my best option. With the information you gave me I have a better understanding of where and what device will work. The only other questions that I would love to know is where to find credible resources without all the code language to rooting. You seem to break things down without confusion, do you already have sites with this information? Again, Thank you!!! I actually am a huge fan of Sprints customer service, but drop calls, no data, and only 1 out of 3 using anything claimed unlimited isn't worth it. I don't know why I am so scared of MVNO's..society I imagine, if it isn't a huge marketing scheme pushing it, then it must be no good. I appreciate you taking the time to explain which company offers customer service!

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    1. Looking at the Pay as you go chart, which carrier might I get a SIM locally for (besides ATAT). I'm in a bit of a rush.
      Josh

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    2. SIMs for GSM MVNOs are often available through local indepent mobile phone dealers. Try Googling MVNO Name Zip Code to find dealers. If you aren't limited to AT&T based services, T-Mobile stores have SIMs.

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  55. Do all at&t mvno get same coverage meaning hspa+?

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  56. Does puretalkusa have hspa+

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  57. Hi Dennis,
    I just spoke to an AT&T rep over the phone, and he said that most of AT&T's prepaid customers receive recycled phone numbers that have already been used. I'm wondering if this is really the case? Also, If I were to go to an AT&t store or a authorized reseller like RadioShack, do you think that they would be able to offer me a phone number from the postpaid list? And if worse comes to worst, should i get a phone number from a different phone company to port? I know that verizon uses the same bucket of numbers for both prepaid and postpaid. I'm not sure what to do, becuase I sick and tired of receiving previous owner's phone calls. If I were to buy another phone just to get a phone number, which do you think would be best for not getting a recycled number. I also want to be able to choose my phone number, to make sure that it is simple.

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    1. I believe most newly assigned phone numbers, whether prepaid, postpaid or landline, are recycled. I think that PagePlus dealer Kitty Wireless lets you request a number by area code and prefix and also lets you try again if you don't like the number assigned. Kitty is currently running a free activation special.

      Your best bet might be a Google Voice number. When I signed up for Google Voice several years ago they let you pick from many different numbers. I don't know if they still do. Google Voice also lets you block unwanted callers.

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  58. Hi Dennis,
    I noticed that Red Pocket and H2O both offer $30 unlimited talk/text plans. Are there any other companies that offer the same plan for the same price? Which AT&T mvno would you recommend out of all that have this plan? Are some of these mvnos better than others?

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    1. Airvoice and Jolt have $30 Talk and Text plans. I prefer Airvoice but Jolt and RedPocket are good too. The only real differences are CS quality (H2O is the worst although they are supposed to be getting better) and the availability of discounted top ups (3-5% off Airvoice, RedPocket and H2O at Callingmart.

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