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The Best Smartphones For Page Plus, Selectel and Other Verizon MVNOs and Where to Find Them

Verizon 3G smartphones are preferred by most Verizon MVNO users because they can be activated easily on Verizon MVNOs like Page Plus, Selectel and Next G with voice, text, data and MMS working "out of the box" without any flashing or other modifications.

In comparison, 4G LTE phones need to be flashed, often by a professional at an average cost of $50, in order to activate on Verizon MVNOs and are not allowed at all on Verizon prepaid and the Straight Talk and NET10 CDMA BYOP programs.

Verizon feature phones usually only work for voice and texts, but not data or MMS on MVNOs.

Here's a table listing some of the best and most popular 3G Verizon smartphones from the newest to oldest. Each phone's name is a link to its detailed specs on PhoneArena.com. The prices come from the Sept, 2013 edition of MicFlix.net's Used Phone Price Guide which tracks used phone prices on Ebay and other sites and is updated monthly

NameRelease month / yearScreen sizeScreen pxCPURAM MBCameraLatest official OSAve used priceNotes
Apple iPhone 4S10/20113.5640 x 960dual core 800 Mhz512 8MPiOS 7$239
Motorola Droid 37/20114.0540 x 960dual core 1 Ghz5128MPAndroid 2.3$54QWERTY slider
HTC Trophy5/20113.8480 x 800single core 1 Ghz5765MPWindows Phone 7.5$51
Motorola Droid X25/20114.3540 x 960dual core 1 Ghz5128MPAndroid 2.3$54
Casio G'zOne Commando4/20113.6480 x 800single core 800 Mhz5125MPAndroid 2.3$72ruggedized water resistant
HTC Droid Incredible 24/20114480 x 800single core 1 Ghz7688MPAndroid 2.3$65
Motorola Droid Pro11/20103.1320 x 480single core 1 Ghz5125MPAndroid 2.3$40QWERTY bar
Palm Pre 210/20103.1320 x 480single core 1 Ghz5125MPWebOS 2.1$69 (new)QWERTY slider
Samsung Fascinate9/20104480 x 800single core 1 Ghz5125MPAndroid 2.3$59
Motorola Droid 28/20104.0480 x 854single core 1 Ghz5125MPAndroid 2.3$41QWERTY slider
Apple iPhone 46/20103.5640 x 960single core 1 Ghz5125MPiOS 7$162
Motorola Droid X5/20104.3540 x 960single core 1 Ghz5128MPAndroid 2.3$40
LG Ally5/20103.2480 x 800single core 600 Mhz2563.2MPAndroid 2.3$29QWERTY slider
HTC Droid Incredible4/20103.7480 x 800single core 1 Ghz5128MPAndroid 2.3$48
Palm Pixi Plus1/20102.6320 x 480single core 600 Mhz2562MPWebOS 1.3.5$39 (new)QWERTY bar

Some good sources of Verizon 3G phones include:

Friends and family. Postpaid Verizon customers who have upgraded their phones recently often have a good 3G smartphone gathering dust.

CowBoom and MobileKarma are commercial sites that specialize in selling new, used and refurbished electronics. While they don't have the lowest prices, CowBoom and MobileKarma's phones come with a warranty and both sites have a good reputation for replacing phones that the buyer isn't satisfied with.

Deals sites like Woot, 1Sale and DailySteals often have new or refurbished Verizon phones at a good price. Most deals are one day only. Sign up for deal site's email alerts so you don't miss out.

Ebay has the greatest variety and prices can be good. Ebay and PayPal's buyer protection do a pretty good job of protecting you from fraud. You still need to be careful when buying from Ebay. I recommend only buying from sellers who have been active on Ebay for a year or more with at least a hundred sales and at least 98% or better positive feedback. Read some of the negative and neutral feedback to get an idea of the sort of problems that can arise. Some large comercial Ebay sellers that specialize in phones and have a good reputation include chubbiestech, Gazelle-Store and CellularStream

Only buy phones that are listed as having a clean ESN. If the listing doesn't mention it ask the seller to verify that the ESN is good. A bad ESN means the phone was reported lost or stolen or that a previous owner owes Verizon money. A bad ESN phone can't be activated on Verizon or any of its MVNOs.

Swappa.com is similar to Ebay but only sells phones and sale prices fixed, there's no bidding. The site performs an ESN check on all phones and doesn't allow the sale of broken phones or ones with a bad ESN. Swappa has good reputation and payment is through PayPal so PayPal's buyer protection policies apply.

Kitty Wireless Forum's For Sale Section. Kitty Wireless is the largest online Page Plus dealer. They have an online forum with an active sales board. Kitty does not allow bad ESN devices to be listed and the board's moderators do a good job of weeding out dishonest sellers. I recommend using PayPal here as well for the buyer protection.

Local private sellers through Craigslist, etc. tend to have the best prices but are also the riskiest. For your personal safety I recommend meeting the seller in a public place. A Verizon store is ideal because in addition to being public you can check the phone's ESN there. ESN's can also be checked online at swappa.com or checkesnfree.com. Asking the seller for ID and a signed bill of sale is a good way to protect your self from buying stolen goods.

What's your favorite Verizon 3G phone and why? Do you have a favorite Ebay seller or other source for Verizon 3G phones? Share your knowledge in the comments.

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  1. It's lots more expensive at $400, but the refurbished ST iPhone 5 is worthy of consideration. It activates out of the box on Pageplus or Selectel, using iTunes or the regular Vzw OTA programming numbers. Mine looks and works like new, has 126 days of Apple warranty left, and a 1-year ST warranty was included.

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  2. In my experience Straight Talk, like all America Movil companies, never honors phone warranties.

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  3. How about the HTC Rhyme. You can get one new for $120 with gingerbread. Buy a case because it only comes in purple.

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  4. Dennis. On the Motorola Droid X2. It was released with froyo, did Motorola update it to gingerbread. Or I would have to do it myself.

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    1. Gingerbread was an official over the air update from Motorola that was available starting in July, 2011. It was available to PagePlus users at that time. I don't know know if it's still available OTA, but chances are any Droid X2 you buy will already be updated. If not you can do it from the SD card using the update file that can be found online.

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  5. Here is a list of phones that are universal Verizon prepaid/mvno carrier byod. All should work on ST, Net10, Next G, Page Plus, H20 Cdma , Selectel, and Verizon prepaid. OTA. As long as 3g postpaid clean esn version.
    Iphone 4/4s.

    LG Vortex, Ally, Enlighten, Vx8360, Vx 11000 (Env Touch), Env 3, Vx 9200, Vx 8575, Vx 8370

    Motorola Devour, Droid X, Droid 2, Droid 2 Global , Droid 3, Droid X2 Gb , Droid R2D2, Droid Pro, Droid X2 GB
    W766

    Nokia 7705

    Palm/HP Pre Plus, Pixi Plus, Pre 2, Pre 3 (Web OS lives!)


    Rim/Blackberry 8830, 9630, 9650, 9930,8330,8530, 9330, 9370, Storm, Storm 2, Torch.

    Samsung Gem, Fascinate, Fascinate White, i400, Reality, CHU-940, CHU-750, CHU-810, CHU-960, Continuum.

    Sony SD XP (Xperia Play SD),


    HTC Droid Eris, Droid Incredible, Droid Merge.

    Casio Commando.

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    1. Good list, thanks.
      Some of the phones are more universal than others:
      Straight Talk and NET10 wont't activate iPhones or BlackBerrys
      There's no BIS support on any of the MVNOs so BlackBerry Mail and Messenger won't work.
      Getting data and MMS working on the feature phones is difficult at best

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  6. Outstandingly useful post. Good job.

    Is there a reason for the lack of ICS+ phones? Cost, or something else?

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    1. Something else. New Vzw smartphones are virtually all 4G LTE, which won't work (unless they are crippled via flashing or other software changes to allow them to program OTA on the 3G network).
      Older phones are not upgradeable because the OEM and carriers customized the software, and it is too expensive to develop and test ICS+ for older phones with vitually no ROI except goodwill.
      Plus, older hardware has a hard time running ICS+ quickly and smoothly.

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    2. The Samsung Fascinate and HTC Incredible 2 have pretty good JellyBean ROMs available.

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  7. Does the Verizon iPhone 4s activate on page plus without flashing?

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  8. Great article Dennis. Very handy !!

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    1. Thanks, I couldn't have done it without MicFlix.net

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  9. I had good luck with free activation of an iPhone on Selectel using Freedom Wireless of Bay City. Good communication, with updates, and Zach promptly verified that my plan and Flex card had been properly applied once the ported number was received. OTA programming worked flawlessly. The 3% discount was nice, too. Freedom Wireless sells most of the major prepaid services, phones, repairs and flashing service from their physical store.

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  10. No ICS phones? My 2 cents is because Verizon stop releasing 3G android smartphones before ICS was released.

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    1. LG Exceed has ICS

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    2. Yes but it's a Verizon Prepaid phone that can't be activated on MVNOs.

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  11. can you root and tether on Verizon prepaid? occasional hot spot is very handy.

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    1. You can root and install a tethering app. I suspect that Verizon's terms of service prohibit tethering but with data capped on the Smartphone plans I doubt they would do anything about it.

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  12. If I have Verzion Wirless Postpaid and my friend has Verizon MVNOs like Page Plus, Selectel and etc... Is that mobile to mobile call for me? and is that free?

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    1. I believe that calling a Verizon MVNO phone from a Verizon phone would not be billed as a M2M call. But I've never tested that as I don't have Verizon postpaid phone.

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    2. Can I use a Verizon 3G smartphones that was activate on Verizon MVNOs like Page Plus, Selectel and etc... on Verzion Wirless Prepaid plan?

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    3. Yes, as long as it's a Verizon non-LTE phone that's not currently active, it should work.

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    4. Hi Dennis!

      Could you please elaborate on the "Yes, as long as it's a Verizon non-LTE phone that's not currently active, it should work' part.

      Am planning on activating a ST iPhone5 on Verizon Pre-paid with Walmart $50 card. Can I later switch the phone+cell num over to PPC or Selectel, if I want to?

      TIA

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    5. A Straight Talk phone is not a Verizon phone and can't be activated on Verizon prepaid or postpaid. It could be activated on PagePlus or Selectel.

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  13. I have narrow my choices of Verizon 3G smartphones to Motorola Driod X2 and Motorola Driod 3. Which gives the best call quality? and the best battery life?

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    1. Battery life should be roughly equal. Most reviewers rate the X2 as having excellent call quality while the Droid 3 gets low marks for distorted and choppy calls.

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  14. Dennis,

    Are you aware of any Windows 8 phones that will work on Straight Talk using the Verizon network? I wanted a Nokia Lumia 928, but they appear to be locked and unusable.

    Thanks,
    Dave Smith
    Oceanside, CA

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    1. None of the Verizon WP8 phones work on Page Plus as they are LTE and thus require flashing and no one has found a way to flash them yet.

      The HTC Trophy is the only Windows Phone that can currently be used on PagePlus. It's a non-LTE WP7.5 device and works on PagePlus without flashing.

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    2. Okay Dennis, I purchased an HTC Trophy (Verizon enabled) off of eBay and a $45 Straight Talk card from Wal-Mart. I was quite happy that the phone and text activated pretty easily for the Montana zipcode to which I am about to move. However, I cannot figure out how to enable the data connection. Wi-Fi works great, but when I turn it off I get nada.

      It seems most of the hints on these pages for the Windows Phones are for the GSM BYOPs. Can you give me a hint how to access Verizon's CDMA with a Straight Talk APN? I'm spinning my wheels.

      Thanks in advance for your assistance,

      Dave Smith

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    3. With a Verizon phone on Straight talk CDMA BYOP data should "just work" after over the air programming using *22890. If it doesn't try doing a factory reset and then reprogramming with *22890

      If that doesn't fix it something is fubar on Straight Talk's end. Call the BYOP support number 855-222-2355 first thing in the morning before they get swamped.

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  15. What is the difference between Straight Talk and Page Plus? Can you bring own phone from Verizon?

    Straight Talk gives unlimited Voice and text and 2.5GB Data for $45

    Page Plus gives unlimited Voice and text and 2.5GB Data for $55
    Both use Verizon Network.
    Plus why does Page Plus turn off service 12am- 3am on the day when your renew

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    1. Different management and different plans. Page Plus customer support is better than Straight Talk's. Both accept clean ESN non-LTE, non-prepaid Verizon phones. Verizon iPhones aren't officially allowed on either but work on Page Plus.

      The AM shut off is a bug in the PagePlus billing system that they don't seem to have any interest in fixing. If can be avoided by keeping a small cash balance in the account,

      For more information see:
      Prepaid Operator Profile: Page Plus
      Prepaid Operator Profile: Straight TalkPrepaid Operator Profile: Straight Talk

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  16. What is the Best phone I can buy for talk and large numbers and screen for Verzion Page plus? or Straight Talk? Thank you

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    1. Among touchscreen smartphones that can be activated on Page Plus, Verizon Prepaid or Straight Talk Verizon with out flashing, the Droid X and Droid X2 have the biggest screens.

      Among dumbphones most flips have pretty big buttons. The Motorola Barrage, RAZR V3c and RAZR V3m, LG VX8300 and Samsung Convoy and Haven are good flip phones with relatively large screens and buttons. Straight Talk sells a "Big Easy" senior friendly phone in candy bar and flip styles. The buttons are big on both but the screen is bigger on the flip.

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  17. Can you Used this phone on Straight Talk Or Page Plus Verizon Samsung Galaxy Legend Android phone?

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    1. No you can't. It's a Verizon prepaid phone and Verizon doesn't allow its MVNOs to activate its prepaid phones. You can only use post paid Verizon phones on Verizon MVNOs.

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  18. Do you feel that the phones which you have listed (with the exception of the iPhones, of course) in your article will essentially work on the new Tracfone BYOP Plan?

    Thanks.

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    1. Yes, except for the iPhones, all the phones listed should work with TracFone BYOP.

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  19. Dennis,

    I currently use page plus with a galaxy fascinate for about 2 years now. I just bought a refurbished galaxys3 from chubbiestech (one of the ebay sellers you mentioned.) I am aware that if I get this flashed (found a shop that would do it for $50.) that I will still only be able to use 3g on PPC.

    Straight talk customer service rep, and their website, says I can use 4GLTE is this true!?. After 2.5 gigs of data is used they slow the data connection to 2G however.....

    I would prefer straight talk $45.00 vs $69.00 I am currently paying for page plus, I would also save having to pay someone to flash it. But I am still up in the air...are there any things that I am missing that I do not know about that I should consider to help sway me one way or another? Are there rumours of page plus getting 4g capabilities any time soon?

    So far my experience with ST has sucked, and that was a total of 2 phone calls to customer service where I got a foreigner that diddn't know what he was talking about. Kept telling me it was unlimited data but only until I pressed him did he admit that they slowed down your data. And he couldn't tell me by how much either. Seems like they are paid to keep their mouths shut about certain things.

    I also read somewheres that I cant even use the s3 on straight talk BYOP program. HELP!

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    1. LTE is only available on Straight AT&T and Sprint BYOP.
      There's no LTE on Straight Talk Verizon BYOP and Straight Talk won't activate Verizon LTE phones.

      If you have a Verizon S3 Flashing to PagePlus orSelectel are your only options.

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  20. Dennis,

    I am in a pickle. I have been a loyal page plus customer for 2+ years now ever sense I switched from verizon. I use a galaxy fascinate. I just recently bought an S3 from chubbiestech on Ebay. ($199.00 refurbished "A" quality might I add)

    So now I find out that PPC wont work with 4G. I just thought it would default to 3G....which it will, but I need someone to "flash'' the phone. .Correct?

    I found someone that would do it for $50.00. Is it a complicated process for a newb to do himself or is it worth the money in danger of destroying the whole phone?

    On the other hand, ST customer service rep told me that It will work off verizon network (just like PPC) and have 4g cababilities with unlimited data. As I read the fine print on their website, it states anything over 2.5gig of data then they slow your data speeds down to 2G. ...hmm. The rep also warned me that my data may be interrupted over night in the event of an overage, where it does not work at all!

    The only thing that has me thinking is ST $45 VS PPC $69 plan that I am on for 5 gig. (I usually dont go over 4 gig) And the fact that I will not have to flash the phone.

    Can you give me anything I may be missing that would lean me towards one provider VS. the other?

    Any rumors on PPC allowing 4G phones in the near future?

    Thank You




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    1. I believe that ST customer service is incorrect about being able to activate a LTE Verizon phone. They often are. Feel free to try.

      As for LTE there are always rumors but nothing concrete. My guess is that Page Plus and Verizon will get LTE sometime next year.

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  21. Dennis - with the recent launch of the iPhone 5c and 5S at ST/Net10/Walmart and the belief that those will work on the ATT and Sprint networks (I believe), is it still safe to assume that if I were to purchase a ST iPhone 5 at a Walmart store that when I port my current number and activate at ST that it will still be activated on Verizon? For me I have to know for sure that the iPhone 5 will be activated on Verizon as the ATT and Sprint coverage in my area is not as good. Thank you!

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    1. I suspect that the Straight Talk iPhone 5C and 5S use the AT&T network and are SIM locked to Straight Talk and not usable on any other network. We should for sure in a day or two when the phones show up in Walmart stores and user's hands.

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  22. Dennis thanks again for the excellent blog.
    My question to you regarding 4gLTE on Pageplus or other Verizon MVNOs in 2014 is I have 2 flashed LG Spectrums on Pageplus already.
    I get 3g speeds ranging anywhere from .8 to 1.3 Mb down and .5 Mb up.
    If Verizon allows 4gLTE in the future will my phones have to reflashed or does flashing the phones in the first place disable 4G completely?
    Maybe you or one of your commenters can enlighten me. Thanks

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    1. No one really knows how LTE activation will work until PagePlus starts doing it. But if your phone is running a stock Verizon ROM, I think all you will have to do is put in the PagePlus LTE SIM and do a factory reset.

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  23. Thanks for the response Dennis. I guess my question is more about the ST iPhone 5 purchased at a Wal Mart store(not the 5C or 5S). Do you think that is still only being activated on Verizon? I will need to purchase a ST iPhone and want it to be activated on Verizon, so it would seem the iPhone 5 (along with the 4S) is the only one that has been activated on Verizon in the past, and potentially going forward if indeed the 5C and 5S might be activated on ATT. Sorry for not being more clear!

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    1. iphone 5 from ST or Net10 is set up to activate over the air on any Verizon MVNO. LTE does not work.
      Vzw prepaid will not activate it.
      The SIM slot is unlocked so you can use it on ATT, Tmobile or any of their MVNOs.

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  24. I just tried to activate a new, clean ESN, Verizon LG11000 (Env Touch) on Verizon prepaid and they insist it's a smartphone and must be on a smartphone plan. This is a feature phone, not a smartphone! Will their MVNOs also require a smartphone plan for this phone? It was a regular Verizon phone, not a prepaid.

    I have a different phone on ST and it is dying, they have screwed up my account totally, and I have wasted dozens of hours on the phone with their different numbers hearing garbage, promises, etc. Ditto for emails with them, so much trouble I lodged a complaint with the FCC. I need to sign up somewhere else soon, before the old phone goes completely weird and dies. I'm in KY but in the next 6 months will hopefully move (back) west to some part of CO, OR, or CA - more rural/small city areas only AT&T and Verizon serve. And I need the QWERTY keyboard, so bought the Env Touch on Amazon. Can I get it activated on PagePlus or another MVNO with a regular plan or will it have to be as a smartphone? If as a smartphone, I will send it back and get a different (Android) QWERTY phone.

    Thanks. ---Mindy

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    1. Verizon has some crazy rules that block many "advanced" feature phones from being activated on non-smartphone plans.

      Verizon MVNOs PagePlus and Selectel will activate any non-prepaid Verizon phone on any plan. Your Env Touch will be OK on even their least expensive plans.

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  25. Thank you! I will go ahead and start moving my number over from ST to a new plan on the new phone on a different MVNO. --Mindy

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  26. FYI, if you don't have a landline, even if you have the Verified by Visa credit card, Kitty Wireless won't let you sign up with them for PagePlus; they say it's for fraud protection. Stupid. They stopped publishing residential white pages for my area because so few people still had numbers to publish! They say 97% of their customers do have them. And suggested porting from a postpaid, instead of from Straight Talk. I refuse to get postpaid cellular and a 2-year contract to port to them from StraightTalk! --Mindy

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    1. Kitty is not stupid. She has lost tens of $thousands due to credit card fraud. You would be stupid NOT to do something to limit your losses if you owned a business and people were stealing a lot from you. I have used Kitty for 3+ years, and she is very honest. I do not have a land line; I use the Vonage $12.99 plan and am listed in the white pages. Walmart has a $9.99 home phone service. You can take the box with you on trips, and Vonage even lets you use your plan minutes to call overseas on your smartphone. Free incoming calls, and toll-free calls. With these features, we do not need to pay a lot extra for unlimited plans. Total bill for 2 cellphones with data and Vonage is less than $40. There is no contract; I can cancel Vonage any time.

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  27. Does anyone have proof that The Tracfone BYOD program works with Motorola Droid X2? I enter my meid/serial # and i get back that it is too long. I also tried the serial and meid #s by theirselves and it says it is in use by another phone in the system.

    Does anyone know the correct procedure to enter these #s into Tracfone's online service to check them or does X2 have to be unlocked or something?

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    1. The Tracfone BYOD program seems to be dead in the water. It worked for a week or so after launch but I haven't heard of anyone successfully activating any phone on it in over a month.

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  28. Great blog. Very helpful. Which of the above phones offers the best reliability overall? I have read about problems with both the Incredible and Droid X. Thanks!

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    1. Other than the Incredible 2 which has a history of charger port problems, I think all the phone's are equally reliable. Luck and the phone's condition probably play a bigger role in determining if a phone will have have problems.

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  29. Can you use an iphone on page plus?

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    1. Only some iPhones:
      Verizon iPhone 4 and 4S - Yes
      Straight Talk iPhone 5 - Yes
      Sprint iPhone 4 - Yes, if flashed

      All other iPhones including the Verizon iPhone 5, 5c and 5S will not work.

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  30. Of the Droid 3, HTC Trophy, Incredible 2, and Droid X2, which has the best camera for photo and video quality?

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    1. Of the four, the Incredible 2 is generally considered to have the best camera.

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  31. So one more time. If I buy a prepaid iPhone 4s from Verizon, activate it for a couple of months with Verizon, then switch to page plus, will it work on page plus?

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    1. No, Verizon Prepaid phones can't be activated on Verizon MVNOs.

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  32. I appreciate the good information in this article, and the time you have taken to respond to questions - thank you!
    I'm trying to find a smart phone that would work on Selectel or PagePlus, but it must have Android 2.3 or newer for a learning management system app I need to install to test HTML5 mobile courses.
    Looking at your list I see 2.3 down the chart, but I've checked Ebay for 3 days (Droid 3, X2, Incredible 2) none of them say Android 2.3 Gingerbread in the description, most say 2.1 or 2.2 or just "Android" OS. And unfortunately, most of the prices are much higher than MicFlix's list!!!
    Are there any above mentioned phones that came stock with 2.3? I've been reading horror stories about manual updates to Gingerbread killing the phones, so it's got me nervous to try an update on my own.

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    1. The Droid 3 and HTC Rhyme (not on the list but should be) both shipped with Gingerbread. The others didn't but most examples in the wild should have been upgraded to Gingerbread long ago. Ask the seller if you are concerned about what version a phone is running.

      In my experience (I've taken at least a dozen OTA updates on various Android phones) problems with updates are rare. I've never had an issue with one that couldn't be fixed by a hard reset.

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  33. I did contact a few business sellers, and 3 of 4 said they did not know for sure. It appears most are populating "canned" product info into the listing which does not reflect any OS updates. Example: "The Motorola DROID 3 smartphone comes with Android 2.0 that lets you download unlimited applications."
    I've always been a Nokia girl, so there's much to learn about Android phones. I want to invest as little time/money as possible since this phone would mainly be an HTML5 course tester device, and would be used on Wifi at work 90% of the time. I need good graphics and a responsive screen, plus easy to swap cards in and out or transfer files between phone & laptop. I'll probably need to test short flash video files as well.
    With those parameters in mind, is there a model that would stand out among the 2.3 Androids listed above? Thanks again!

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    1. I consider the best of the bunch to be the Rhyme and Incredible 2.
      Among the older, less expensive phones, the Droid X and Incredible provide the most bang for the buck

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  34. I converted and inactive droid x to straight talk 12/20. Now I am trying to convert an active droid x and I am getting a message that the phone is incompatible. Why should I do? I want to port over the old number so I don't want to make the phone inactive - plus I am not even sure that is the problem... straight talk customer service makes me want to shoot myself.

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    1. Porting an active Verizon phone and number to a Verizon MVNO requires an extra step on the part of the new operator. Straight Talk needs to port your number to a temporary "dummy ESN" to release the phone from Verizon.

      Try calling Straight Talk's "Executive Resolutions Dept.", a possibly Miami based call center at 1-305-715-6500 or 1-800-876-5753. It's available Monday – Friday from 8:00 AM to 7:00 PM EST. It's best to call 1st thing in the morning as calls get transfered offshore when Exec Resolutions gets swamped. Be sure to explain that the phone is active on Verizon.

      If Executive Resolutions can't help you there are several other ways to resolve the issue.
      If you have a spare unused Verizon phone, swap it on to the line you want to port to free the Droid X
      Or call Verizon and explain what you are trying to do and ask them to assign a dummy ESN to the line to release the Droid X
      Or port your number to Google Voice and then use Google Voice to forward the number to a new Straight Talk number.
      Or if you have a spare phone that's compatible with a non-Verizon based operator, temporarily port the number to that carrier and then port it again to Straight talk

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  35. Hi,

    I need clarification, please: The HTC Incredible can be used with Selectel Wireless without flashing, etc. because it is 3g and non-LTE, correct? What about the HTC Incredible 2 - isn't that a 4g/LTE phone that would need to be flashed in before using on Selectel?

    What are your thoughts on the HTC Trophy phone - how does a Windows phone differ from a Droid/Android, in your opinion? I only want a smartphone for casual use - texting, checking the internet once in a while and would like GPS capabilities (I'm new to smartphones). My son and daughter have smartphones; my son says a Droid is better....but I won't be texting as much as he does and I won't be downloading songs/videos like he does (but I would like to have the capabilities if I wanted to try it).

    Also, do you know if Selectel Wireless charges fees (activation, porting, etc.) if you don't buy phones from them? If so, any idea what the cost would be?

    Sorry for all the questions - thanks for your advice in advance

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    1. The HTC Incredible 2 is not an LTE phone and does not need to be flashed to work with Selectel.

      Windows Phone is less versatile and more locked down than Android but is considered easier to use. Personally I find WP too restrictive and prefer Android. For talking, texting, using the camera, surfing the Web and downloading songs Windows Phone is fine. The Trophy has GPS and a mapping app but it's not as good as Google Maps on Android and doesn't support turn by turn navigation with voice guidance like Android does.

      Selectel charges $30 for BYOP activation with or without a port. Selectel dealers Freedom Wireless, Genius Wireless and Bat Mobile Wireless offer free activations and porting

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  36. Thanks in advance,
    I have been using a palm pixi plus on page plus for a couple years now. I dont buy
    a monthly data plan, I buy one $80 card per year (2000 min I think). I only turn on
    data when its extremely necessary. When I need the web, I use wifi.
    I am considering upgrading to an S3 flashed to PP. Can I use the S3 in the same way
    that I did the pixi plus? Do I need to buy a monthly data plan from page plus, or can I
    keep buying minutes as I need them, with the S3? Does the S3 have a switch to turn
    the data off and on like the pixix plus? Thanks alot for any insight :-)

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    1. A flashed Galaxy S 3 can be used on PagePlus pay as you go just like your Pixi Plus. All Android phones allow you to enable and disable data from within the settings menu.

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    2. Having used the Pixi Plus, Pre 2 and Android phones on PagePlus for several years, I can offer one tip: Use an app from the Android market to better control data on-off. The Palm phones behave when you turn off mobile data in the dialer preferences. Android phones do not always obey ("data leaks"), and at 99c/mb, this can cost you. Tip 2: My wife now uses Selectel, because the $75 Annual Plan offers more talk and text for the money (no 50c/month fees). She buys data as needed via their Flex Card for only 5c/mb. Roaming is free, not 29c/minute. She enjoys her iPhone a lot more now. We used Freedom Wireless of Bay City and they provide excellent service and a small discount. Selectel CS was excellent the three times I called to check.

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  37. Hello,

    You answered one of my previous questions and I thank you for it. I finally narrowed my phone choices for Selectel down to Motorola Droid X2 and the Samsung Fascinate. We (husband and I) both like the X2 a little better because of the size of the screen, more memory and it seems the camera is better. In your opinion, do you think the Motorola Droid X2 is a better choice?

    Also, the owner of the phones we're interested in (from eBay) states that the operating system is "Google’s Android 2.2 (Froyo) operating system". What's the difference between the Froyo and Gingerbread system? We are only casual users and don't need these phones for work or business. Do you think it would be best to have the Gingerbread over the Froyo system? It seems most people prefer the Gingerbread, but for what reason? I value your advice; thanks again. (As you can tell, I'm a 'newbie')

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    1. I think the Droid X2 is a better choice for casual use than the Samsung Fascinate. It's newer and has a bigger, higher resolution screen, better camera and better reception.
      Also consider the Droid Incredible 2 which has a better camera than the X2 and is a little faster and smoother at scrolling and switching between apps. The Incredible 2's reception isn't as good as the X2 so it's not a good choice in weak signal areas.

      Froyo is a one generation older version of Android than Gingerbread. The main improvement in Gingerbread is easier text selection for copying and pasting. See Android 2.3 Gingerbread Features and List of What’s New - Android Community for other differences.

      It's pretty easy to upgrade a Droid X2 to Gingerbread yourself if you want but Froyo is perfectly usable.

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  38. THANK YOU very much for your advice and help! You made it easy (now) for me to choose the X2, and it's esp. helpful to know we can upgrade to Gingerbread ourselves (thanks for the link).

    Since you are so helpful and know so much about cell phones, I was wondering if you are knowledge about tablets - those that run on Android and those that do not. If you do, could I please ask your advice on certain tablets I'm interested in? It's really hard to gauge products from anonymous "so-called" user reviews, that's why I'm asking YOU, since you have been so helpful. I know this is a cell phone forum, but I thought I would ask anyway.

    Thanks again!

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    1. In my option, the Nexus 7 (2013 version) and the entry level iPad Mini are the two best moderately priced tablets.

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  39. Thank you very much!

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  40. Dennis, I apologize if all or some of my questions have been answered elsewhere, but I've been researching MVNOs all day and am still unclear on a couple things. I'd like to set up a postpaid Verizon iphone 4 on Page Plus. I'm still using Verizon out of contract currently. I am trying to avoid finding out what I should've done after the fact.

    Do have advice or a link you could share speaking to what one should do before switching (i.e. do/n't notify Verizon before hand, wait until the end of the billing period, what to say when registering an iPhone with PP, how to retain visual voicemail, etc.)? I'm seeing a lot of middleman sites offering MVNO transfers for a fee. Is there any benefit to using them or just transfer directly with PP?

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    1. Start the process at least a week before the end of your Verizon billing period.
      Call Verizon and get your account number and passcode.
      Use Kitty Wireless' free online number porting service to do the actual port.

      You will lose visual voicemail as Page Plus doesn't support it. Google Voice is a good free alternative.

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  41. As many have said, you're the man, Dennis. It's tough to find an expert in any field that is as responsive and helpful as you.
    I've read that a landline, which I don't have, is required to use Kitty. If that's the case is there another free porting service you could recommend that does not?
    What does it mean to lose visual voicemail exactly? I picture that option no longer showing up under the phone icon choices (favorites, contacts, VM). Is it possible to call in to voicemail as you do with a non-smartphone, or is there simply no VM service of any kind supported by PP for one's primary phone #?
    I tried using GV for business, but it wasn't satisfactory. VMs & txts would often come through hours or days after being sent. Half the time I couldn't answer the call, get the number pad to come up and press 1 to accept before it was sent to VM. I really wanted it to work, but I played with it for months and finally gave up. Any other suggestions for VM service?

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    1. John: I make purchases from Kitty with a credit card and I do not have a land line. I use Vonage. You could try the free port, since you are not making a payment. BTW, she improved credit card security since people were stealing $thousands/month from her via credit card fraud.

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    2. I agree, a free port from Kitty should not require a landline. Also Kitty has said that porting a number from a postpaid account provides sufficient identify verification that a landline isn't necessary even for purchases.

      Other reputable online dealers who offer free Page Plus ports include genius-wireless.com and freedomwirelessbc.com

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  42. I recently (this past Sunday) activated a Droid X2 on PagePlus, using Kitty Wireless. This was not a port, this was a new number on a new phone. The activation went fine, I signed up for the $12 per month plan, and actually received the free month. And then they cancelled me for not having a verifiable land line.

    I do not criticize Kitty for trying to avoid credit card fraud, with recent events in the news (70 million stolen credit cards from Target, etc), it seems like a very smart move. But I don't think the "land line" thing is going to hold up well over time. Most of the people that I know do not have a land line these days.

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  43. According to Kitty, "Sorry it didn't work out for you. I can guarantee it had more to do than the landline thing. We process orders all day that have no landline attached to them. That is just one small factor." Apparently she thinks you have a more serious problem with your identity. Only 1-2% or her orders fail.
    http://www.kittyforums.net/showthread.php/6141-Kitty-Wireless-refused-to-fulfill-order-because-I-have-no-landline!

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    1. My daughter has no landline, only her PagePlus line through Kitty Wireless. I processed her first credit card order. It went through fine on the first try. I think some of these people have other problems they are not disclosing about their identity or credit card use.

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  44. Dennis, Thanks for all the info; more please: above [10/10/13, 6:48P], you mention "HTC Incredible 2 ha[s] pretty good JellyBean ROMs available". Which do you recommend? Also, I've been doing a bit of reading, and video seems to be described as "buggy" for some ROMs (or is that also true of the phone?) Any ROMs with those dead moths properly tweezed out? Lastly, presumably any 4.1 [Jelly Bean] or newer version has voice recognition from any app (or is that ROM-dependent)? {XL hands.} Your help is much appreciated {and I think I speak for MANY}.

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    1. I have no personal experience running JB on the Inc 2. That comment was based on this Kitty Forums thread Latest 100% Working ROM For Incredible 2?. Where Chillybean's unofficial CM 10.1 and 10.2 and the Evervolv 4.2 2013.08.05 build where reported being stable.

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  45. Just a follow-up post. After reading the good advice here, I bought an HTC Rhyme & a Droid x2 to test-drive. I like the Rhyme but it only pulls 1-2 bars in our "fringe" location, whereas, side-by-side, the Droid x2 consistently pulls 5 bars.
    I got set up on Selectel with the yearly plan and a couple extra flex cards, and am very happy so far with the experience & service from GW. Thanks to all for posting great info!

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  46. Dennis, just to go back to the basics about PagePlus...I *can* use an iPhone 4 on PPC? Is it hard to set up on PPC? Would you rather have a Droid 2 or Incredible 2 for PPC instead? Appreciate your opinions.

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    1. The IPhone 4 and 4S work fine on Page Plus although Page Plus reps will tell you they aren't allowed. PagePlus dealers have no problems activating them and neither do most Page Plus support reps as long as you don't mention that it's an iPhone. Over the air activation works like any other 3G verizon phone, there's no special setup required.

      The Droid 2 is older and slower than the Incredible 2. If has a slide out keyboard, the Incredible doesn't. They are both good phones but if you want a keyboard the Droid 3 is faster than the Droid 2 and still costs less than the Incredible 2. Overall I prefer the Incredible 2 over any of the Motorolas but I'm not a keyboard fan.

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    2. Thanks, Dennis. I really like Swype, don't like slider keyboards, decided to go with an iPhone 4 (even if I do have to tap, tap, tap to type). Should receive it in the next day or two so will just need to switch phones on PPC. Your site and links are so helpful.

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  47. Dude, Dennis, you rock! Not only did you write a comprehensive article that helped me immensely in my search for the best PagePlus-compatible phone, but you've been ROCKING these comments and answering people's questions! Thanks so much!

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  48. I was looking at the motorola droid x2 to run on page plus will I be able to make calls and text over my wifi at home with this phone.

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    1. No phone on the Verizon network can natively make calls or send texts over WiFi. You would need to install an app like RingPlus, Vonage, WhatsApp or Skype taht supports calling or messaging using data.

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  49. is there a app that I can get to make calls and text over wi fi and recieve calls that uses my current cell number. We just got t mobile and the cell coverage isnt quite good enough but I like the way i can call and text over wifi.

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    1. Vonage works for that. You can also call and message via Facebook with Bobsled. They assign you another number for direct calls to your cell tho.

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    2. Many T-Mobile smartphones have WiFi calling and messaging built in. It only works on T-Mobile itself including T-Mobile prepaid and MetroPCS not on MVNOs.

      Otherwise Vonage lets you make outgoing calls over WiFi using your own number. There are other apps for WiFi calling and messaging but they assign you a number.

      Another option is porting your number to Google Voice. Google Hangouts for iOS lets you call and text using your Google Voice number and it's expected that this functionality will be added to Hangouts to Android soon.

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  50. Very informative blog. I am curious why no one asks about or mentions the Huawei phones like Ascend Plus that are sold by Page Plus. Are they inferior to the more popular phones that are discussed here? I am a novice and am trying to learn about the options before purchasing a phone and selecting a carrier. My usage will be very minor, voice at less than 100 minutes per month, and occasional data when traveling. Page Plus is selling HuaWei Ascend Plus for $150, and it comes with Android 4.0 - Ice cream sandwich. I don't know for sure, but the specifications look competitive. Any thoughts on this phone?

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  51. I would also appreciate some feedback on the Huawei. My son seems set on a Galaxy 4, but I'm not clear as to whether or not it will work on Page Plus- do I need to buy an unlocked Verizon, do I need to pay someone to set it up, who, and how does that work. Can he keep his number?

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    1. A Galaxy S4 needs to be flashed to work on PagePlus. Flashing costs around $35. Either a Verizon or a Sprint S4 can be flashed to PagePlus. The Huawei phones that PagePlus sells are low end and seem overpriced. You will get more bang for the buck with a flashed Boost Moto G.

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  52. I would like to know what type of iphone 4S i need to BYOD plan to Tracfone and if there are unlock conditions that has to be made to do it.

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  53. There's nothing to unlock. Any post paid Verizon 4s that's not currently active and isn't reported lost or stolen or flagged by Verizon for non-payment should work.

    But many phones that should work fail to activate for unknown reasons. Before buying any phone for TracFone BYOP check the MEID at http://tracfonewireless.com/byop/ to verify that it can be activated.

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