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Virgin Mobile One Day Sale - Samsung Galaxy S III $279.99 - Oct 29 Only

Today Tuesday Oct 29, VirginMobileUSA.com Mobile USA is having a one day only sale on their top Android phone, the Samsung Galaxy S III. During the sale the S III is priced at $279.99, while supplies last. That's $120 off the phone's regular $399.99 price.

I'm not sure exactly when the sale will start but Virgin Mobile's sales typically begin around 7AM Eastern time.

Key Galaxy S III specs:
  • 4.8-inch HD Super AMOLED screen 
  • Network: CDMA/1xRTT, EVDO, LTE (LTE is now available in 230 markets nationwide) 
  • Processor: dual core 1.5GHz Qualcomm MSM8960 
  • 8-megapixel rear-facing camera with zero shutter-lag, 1080p video capture and 720p playback and a 1.9-megapixel front-facing camera 
  • Android 4.1.2, Jelly Bean 
  • Dimensions: 5.38 x 2.78 x 0.34 inches (136.6 × 70.7 × 8.6 mm) 
  • Weight: 4.7 Ounces (133 g)
  • Battery: 2100mAh, Standby: 3G: Up to 12.5 Days; 4G: Up to 8.3 Days, Talk Time Up to 9 hours
  • Bluetooth: 4.0, Supported Profiles: A2DP, AVRCP, HID, HFP, PBAP, HSP, OPP, SPP;
  • Wi-Fi: 802.11 a/b/g/n, Wi-Fi Direct
  • Connectivity: micro USB with USB On-The-Go, 3.5 mm stereo headphone jack, Near Field Communication (NFC) with support for Google Wallet.
  • Internal Memory RAM (2GB), ROM (16GB)
  • External Memory: Up to 64GB microSD
The Galaxy S III can be used on any of Virgin's Beyond Talk plans, which start at $35/month for unlimited LTE or 3G data (throttled to "3G speeds" after 2.5 GB) , unlimited text and picture messaging and 300 voice minutes.

$279.99 is the best price I've seen yet for an off-contract S III. I wouldn't be surprised if the phone sells out before the sale is scheduled to end.

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  1. WEDNESDAY the 29th? Wednesday is the 30th according to my calendar.

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    1. Thanks, the sale is today, Tuesday. I've corrected the post.

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  2. It is still on sale at Virgin. I would rather buy the iPhone 5 for $404.99 though. That is the best price anywhere for a new one.

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  3. Went and ordered one after reading this. I hope I can keep my $25 grandfathered monthly plan: according to users on the Virgin forum, it's a crap shoot, half keep it and half do not. That being said, going from $25 to $35 isn't the most horribly thing to happen: $25 is still low.

    Must depend on the whims of Sir Richard's supposed underlings in the Virgin HQ.

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    1. most likely u going to have to pay 35...i upgraded to an lg f3 and now im paying 35/month after 3 years that i was paying 25/month

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    2. Sir Richard lost most of his interest when he sold VM USA to Sprint.

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  4. For those concerned about coverage issues with Virgin Mobile, and the Sprint network that Virgin rides along, here's a site that gives you the option to drill down to specific city level to see where exactly that Sprint has performed the most recent network upgrades:

    https://network.sprint.com/

    Keep in mind that when you sign-up for Virgin Mobile and Boost Mobile, you are limited to Sprint's native network coverage, which does not include roaming. Also, Sprint uses different levels of network management dpending upon the class of customer ie: postpaid, prepaid branded Sprint (As You Go), prepaid Virgin Mobile, prepaid Boost Mobile and Sprint very large corporate customers.

    Even though Sprint peddles "unlimited" plans. different classes of customers will experience different (and somewhat diminished/degraded) levels of unlimited service depending on network capacity/load and location among others.

    Also, purchasing a Virgin Mobile and/or Boost Mobile phone/device limits the ability of the customer to move that phone/device to another Sprint MVNO if he/she chooses to do so at a later time.

    Lastly, are there better deals on the horizon as Black Friday gets closer?


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    1. Right on. I'm on the fence with 8 hours to go, wanting to get 3 of them for Christmas (wife, two kids) but wondering whether to do it now or wait.

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    2. I am sure that Black Friday will have at least as good of a deal. But I got so sick of my old phone that has so little memory that I even had to deleted Google Play/Marketplace in order to even receive texts.

      As for Sprint, I wish they were more forthcoming about which places are getting better coverage and when. I find the best answers by going to a Sprint store and asking them.

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  5. I am so happy that I left VM. As much as I enjoyed the $25 a month with Moto Triumph, I love my iPhone 5s with Verizon. Fast LTE, great voice quality, etc. My bill is only $75 a month. Life is too short with slow 3G speeds. Prepaying $300 on my Verizon Paygo account at a 15% discount was a smart move. In hindsight, I should have put more money in my account -- the the conversion from paygo to postpaid was immediate.

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  6. While I agree that vm iphone 5 is the best deal around at 404 ... I just tried it for a while in the NYC / DC corridor. There is still no simultaneous data when u are on a call. There is no data connectivity not even the usual trickle for messaging apps when on 1x/3G ... Only when it shows LTE would I get any data. Which needless to add was very rare. But in mid town NYC it was pretty decent. So had to end up returning it :( some day sprint will pull through like tmobile from the network coverage gutter

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    1. I avoid iPhone compared to Android due to the poor app selection, and how with iPhones you pay a lot more to get a lot less. Lack of standard controls like menu buttons (found on most of even the cheapest Android phones) means fumbling around through the apps that do menus/config all different. And the lack of USB on an iPhone is a serious design flaw.

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    2. In any competitive market, buyer demand sets the price. iPhones sell for more money because their customers are the most satisfied and think they are worth the prices charged. They want beautiful, high-quality phones that are easier to learn and a delight to use. You don't need to learn 3 buttons, just Home. iPhones just work, because they are fully-integrated systems, not an assembly of hardware, third-party OS and carrier mods. iPhone buyers want phones that can be easily be upgraded with new features, free of charge when OS upgrades are available. Phones with the largest selection of apps, apps that work more consistently and are actually tested by Apple to make sure they are safe and do what they say they will do. Phones that are not the target of most hacking activity. Phones that offer excellent resale value due to high demand and quality. Low up-front cost does not mean lowest cost of ownership, and frequent replacement of inexpensive phones with outdated OS and low-end hardware will cost more than just buying a quality product to start. These are just some of the reasons why iPhone is one of the most desirable smartphones in the world.

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    3. iPhones are harder to learn. I used to have one. I once decided to copy a few MP3 files to my iPhone so I could listen to them. I fought with this problem for a few hours, and gave up. On Android phones and typical MP3 players, this can be done in seconds. So easy, I know from direct experience.

      As for the Home button, you missed the point. With the crazy non-standard way iPhone apps handle menu/config and 'back", you have to learn a different way for every app. A lot harder than just knowing having buttons like this... found on most Android phones in the same area... phones like the S3.

      Why do iPhones well well? The screen display IS sharp. But a lot of the rest of it is nothing more than effective advertising. Apple has a "cool" cachet that no company can even come close to. Not even Samsung, the maker of the "iPhone Killer" Galaxy S3 from this post, which has succeeded in surpassing Apple in the phone market on the merit of its products as opposed to the "it's cool to own one" cachet.

      You also miss the point on the Apple app market, Anon. What it has meant is that apps available are dictated by the whims of one single company more than actual consumer need. This results in crazy decisions like "no flash because we feel it is immoral" and banning alternative keyboard configuration apps. (It is hard to argue that the Apple way is better than Android, where one can get any sort of keyboard style that fits their needs). Or the very infamous decision to force the Apple map system with its bacon-shaped bridge images on people who preferred to use working map systems instead.

      Such things are simply no problem at all, or much less of one, in the Android world... where apps suit the users rather than the Dilbert-office-like designers in Cupertino who force their decisions on people. The same designers at Apple who once decreed that users would need to jam bent paperclips in a tiny pinhole rather than press an eject button to remove a disk, or that computers with nothing but USB ports were a great idea when most peripherals didn't have USB plugs.

      This is why most of the Apple devotees around me have ditched the fruit for the little green robot. At the end of the day, a more useful product will win out over cool cachet.

      All coolness aside, there are some nice useful apps on
      Android which simply aren't available on iPhone. iPhones may just work, but Androids work.. and play, and create, and just (as the Droid says) Do.

      I might pay $200 for an iPhone with its super sharp screen, but crippled app market, missing USB port, and harder-to-use UI, but they won't fool me into paying premium prices unless you actually get a lot more for paying a lot more, like with the high-end Samsung Galaxy products.

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    4. iPhones are so easy to learn that even senior citizens and technophobe noobs can learn them quickly. They get lost in Android with all the extra buttons and tiny icons, and just give up. With iPhone, they push Home and start over. So easy. And the learning does not start all over again when they get a new iPhone. Unlike fragmented Android, with every phone maker heading in a different direction.
      Loading iPhone content is very easy, too. You just use iTunes, set up Sync by pushing a couple of buttons. Then everytime you connect the iPhone you automatically get your new pix, music, audiobooks, podcasts, whatever you had set up. No hands. Your phone backs up to the computer or wirelessly to iCloud automatically too. No hands; you know it will work perfectly. New iPhone? Restore from iTunes backup and the new phone is identical to your old one. It could not be easier. Want to see a senior or smartphone noobie smile? Have them take a picture with the iPhone and have them see the picture appear automatically on their iPad and Macbook Pro. All they did was snap the picture. Music? They do not even have to load it with Music Match. For $2/month, Apple servers will stream all their computer's music to their iPhone, whether they bought it from Apple or loaded a burned CD.
      Apps? It is not even close. The App Store brings in 4-5 times the revenue of the Play Store, although the latter is growing faster. Why so much revenue for the App Store? The apps are higher quality, and people are willing to pay for apps that Apple has tested for quality and safety. If you won't pay for quality, tested apps and want 10-15% more choice of free ones, Google Play might satisfy you.

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    5. You proved my point with the convoluted description of iTunes. On Android and other easier-to-use systems, you simply copy the songs to the device and they are ready to play. No brutal system-resource-killing iTunes app that keeps spamming the user for upgrades. It is a yet another serious design flaw from Apple to make it difficult to simply treat the iPhone as another drive and copy and play tunes from it.

      I don't care how much money Apple makes from its app store, but since that is the first thing you mention, one might wonder if you are paid by Apple to shill with such a large quantity of add-copy-like boilerplate: your claim that Apple apps are "higher quality" is a perfect example of this.

      Why so much revenue for the Apple app market? It's not based on quality at all. It is due to draconian policies designed to maximize profit and block competition. Again, the decisions there are made by out-of-touch wonks in the Cupertino ivory towers. Android has much less of a problem, even though it exists somewhat. The situation with the alternative keyboard apps in Android market but not the App store proves the complete failure of the "North Korea" model of Apple. In this and so many other areas, Android provides many choices, and Apple comes up a big zero. No "quality tested apps" at all.

      Relevant to the post, I did get a Galaxy S3, and am enjoying doing a lot on it that can't be done in an iPhone. And there are 3 buttons instead of a single cryptic Home button.... which you defended in your example of senior citizens getting panicked and hitting it. No need to panic in Android: there are choices.

      Remember, our senior citizens are not simpletons. They ARE capable of handling devices with more than one button. The typical number people desire is from 3 to 5. That is based on the real world situation of companies designing and marketing devices according to people's needs.

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    6. More information for the person who types like a paid Apple promoter:

      "Top 10 Awesome Android Features that the iPhone Doesn't Have"

      It is two years old, but relevant now more than ever. A few of the long-term design deficiencies of iPhones bear special mention:

      10. Alternate Keyboards. The "quality" of the keyboard apps on IOS is a dead-last zero, due the silly decision by Apple to censor/ban then.

      7. Removable Battery and Storage. I mean, come on. I can easily replace the battery in a $2.99 flashlight I got from Home Depot. But on IOS defices costing hundreds of times as much? They go out of their way to make it hard on the user... and you risk busting your device doing this simple and necessary operation. Storage? Even the cheapest Polaroid tablet has a Micro SD slot... all the way up to top of the line Galaxy Note phones. But Apple chooses to make things harder, once again, for users, by banning this from their products. This is one of many articles about efforts to overcome this severe design flaw. I wonder how your supposedly mindless senior citizens who can only handle a single HOME button would handle the immense hassle required to get around the Apple devices missing an SD slot?

      2. Flash. It is one of many video formats. But a major one. In one of the worst examples of the "North Korea" dictatorship mentality, Apple has banned it for no other reason than someone at Apple feels it is somehow immoral for people to play Flash video files. Of course, in more open systems (i.e. responsive to actual consumer needs), everything plays Flash.

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    7. Nik Raman, founder of Usell.com: “Apple devices retain value the most. We see them depreciate by about 5 percent per month, whereas Android devices depreciate by about 10 percent per month.”

      iPhones do not need replacement keyboards. They come with one that works perfectly.

      If you want extra holes and seams in your phone, and don't mind how that looks and feels, buy that other phone.

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    8. "iPhones do not need replacement keyboards. They come with one that works perfectly."

      It works perfectly, but only for some. But virtual keyboards are NOT (as you seem to be saying) one size fits all. If this were the case, Apple would stop banning better virtual keyboards. They could allow them on their marketplace, and laugh when no-one buys them.

      As for the "holes", most users find USB ports and memory slots to be quite useful. It is a bizarre sort of mentality to see these as a liability, or draw-back. Perfect example of what an Apple "pay a lot more to get a lot less" salesman might try to sell. The very idea that it is good to pay extra for the "benefit" of missing features (USB, removable battery, SD slot) and for lack of flexibility (IOS keyboard uber alles).

      When the dust is settled, and the glow of slick marketing fades, it will become like it has been in the PC world: hardly anyone buying closed-system, pay more for less but oh they LOOK cool Apple products.

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    9. The idea that Apple's keyboard is perfect, no other is needed is as humorous as the idea that their map system is the best.

      Every Apple user I talk to hates the inferior virtual keyboard they are forced to use with IOS products.

      You may think it is perfect (or perhaps you are paid to think so), but what is perfect for one person is not perfect for another. All considerations of the IOS keyboard's design aside, Apple is vastly inferior to more-open systems in this area, because the others allow users to choose.

      Here is something I read from someone named Frank: "I have a PC laptop, a Droid RAZR Maxx phone, and i just got an IPad 4 (please know I had tried typing small I several times but it keeps overriding it, even saying iPad). I'm going to keep the iPad, I think, because what i like so far has outweighed the dislikes.



      But swype is awesome! Especially for quick responses, and one handed typing. Sometimes with the iPad, I feel like I'm back in the Handheld Stone Age holding it w one hand and poking away w my index finger. Swype, meanwhile, especially the latest version, allows a seamless transition between swiping and traditional typing regardless of App."

      That's it in a nutshell. IOS is stone-age. A legacy system that doesn't know it yet.

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    10. If you do not like the iPhone keyboard, there are many good alternatives. Just type: "iphone alternate keyboard" into your search engine and have a read. Or use your bluetooth keyboard.
      The future is not fragmentation. Google bought Motorola and Facebook is building their own phone because the future is integrated systems. Like Apple has been building for 30 years. BTW, who did FB hire to design they phone? Ex-Apple engineers.

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    11. Point out a single one of these that (without jailbreaking) actually replaces the default IOS keyboard. If you can't then none is a replacement. I read up on 3 of them so far and NONE of them replaced it (not an alternative). I stopped after 3.

      Sorry, having a separate app with a separate keyboard is difficult. One of many clear and objective examples of where iPhones are harder to use than other company's products.

      On the S3 any of the alternate keyboards I find replaces the default one.

      The future is fragmentation. Google Motorola is one company of many. FB (which is going the way of Myspace, by the way) is one company, buying the failed Blackberry line.

      One-size-fits-few is harder on the user and simply does not work as well.

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    12. Did some more reading. I DID find one actual alternative keyboard. It's iSwipe. You have to hack your iPhone to even get it to work: it is against Apple's wishes. A lot of people with good reason don't want to jailbreak their iPhones. And they are stuck with one bad keyboard, and no alternatives.

      The S3 I got came with a version of Swype. If it didn't, I could download it easily. All without even having a thought to hacking/rooting this phone.

      Sorry... once again .... "good alternatives" are difficult to get to, and require risky modification. In distinct contrast to the Android situation: easy all the way around. Try telling you "senior citizens" who have to press the Home button because they are lost in IOS apps that they have to do something called "jailbreaking" to make their phone a lot more useful.

      Again, objectively, easy beats hard. And the ability to do something without warranty-voiding hacking is a BIG plus.

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    13. Looks like we agree on one thing; hacking is not good.
      Of course, one of the reasons Android has fans is that a lot of users like to root, hack the roms, and eliminate all the poor-quality bloatware that the phone makers and carriers like to install on their phones. You know, customization is good; so Apple jail-breaking is bad (?). I am sure that seniors just love all that bloatware; they have nothing better to do, right? Play with bloatware that wastes their phone's limited internal memory. But tethering their phone to their laptop...Oops! I guess most of them will have to have a friend root/hack their phone to install that tethering app.
      You will not find bloatware on your iPhone unless you install it yourself.

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    14. "You will not find bloatware on your iPhone unless you install it yourself."

      I used to use an iPhone. 2/3 of the apps were bloatware. Things I didn't want and didn't install. At least we are agreed that forcing people to use one bad keyboard is bad, and allowing them many choices is good.

      Don't knock 'hacking". If not for jailbreaking, a lot fewer people would be using iPhones. Keeps the iPhone base larger, because without this option, the users would vote with their "feet".

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    15. Here is an article on how to fight Apple bloatware. I suppose the standard Apple PR line is that the bloatware is all "necessary", just like the default keyboard and the force-on-users Apple map system is perfect.

      The 'net is filled with articles about people trying to fight pernicious/obnoxious Apple bloatware on iPhones.

      Yes, there is VM bloatware on my new S3. At least I don't have to deal with anyone denying it is bloatware. Corporate shills do that, no-one else. And the latest Android lets me at least completely hide the icons of the bloatware. Not sure if IOS has this useful feature yet. I am willing to bet "no", because the decree from Pyongyan... er Cupertino is that all users love all apps and none are bloatware.

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    16. How do you get from Newstand and Stocks to "2/3 of the apps were bloatware." There are more than one definition of bloatware/crapware, but this Wired article from 3 years ago concisely defines and explains the problem with Android phones sold by carriers: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/07/bloatware-android-phones/ The problem is worse now.
      Apple does not install those kind of bloat/crap apps; theirs perform basic functions, are not trials, and do not try to steal your personal info. You can delete some Apple apps along with others you don't like in seconds: Push and hold. Hit the circle with the X that appears on all the apps you want to delete. Done.
      You like simple Android, right? Here is how (for most phones this only works on apps YOU installed):
      Settings>Scroll to Applications>Manage Applications>Pick: Downloaded, Running, All or SD card>Scroll to app and select>push Uninstall>find the Back button>Scroll to app and select>Uninstall. Repeat again and again. Wasn't that fast and easy? Similar, longer, harder process to quit running apps compared to iPhone, unless you install the App Killer app! Then you can see the unruly Android apps that restart themselves automatically when you launch App Killer again.
      iPhone? Push Home twice, flick app windows up and they quit (great idea borrowed from WebOS).
      Android is not fun or easy compared to iPhone.

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    17. The claim that worthless bloatware is not bloatware is pure corporate PR. You just don't get it from actual users. "theirs perform basic functions"? sorry, the news and stock and maps bloatware is/are totally useless.

      But thanks for the steps you gave to delete SOME of the bloatware. Which really puts your point that there's no bloatware in IOS buried completely now.

      Yes, Android has bloatware, but I would have to call the Verizon marketing office to find someone to claim it's not bloatware. For Apple, the corporate shill is right here.

      "...and do not try to steal your personal info."

      Shades of Nixon and I am not a crook. The tech news world has been full of IOS/Apple privacy violation scandals for years now. Where have you been?

      And as for deleting the gobs of bloatware that IOS devices have? The official line from Apple, on a page about the mapping bloatware, at support.apple.com is this: "I want to delete the apple maps, passbook and a few other apps, as they take up memory and I don't use them. ... Sorry, you can't delete any pre-installed apps...those that are part of the iOS .". Yeah, they lie and claim that apps that some users might need but get in the way of others are "necessary": stuff that the phones run fine with when you hack them to take them out.

      Got to keep the bloatware.

      "Android is not fun or easy compared to iPhone."

      Kind of surprised you are still claiming this, especially after we discussed how you have to hack the iPhone to run a better keyboard (and you don't need to do this at all on Android). This is not a matter of opinion: it is objective fact that something you can do with little hassle at all is "easier".

      So, enlighten us again how about how having to JAILBREAK an iPhone in order to run swype is easier than just grabbing it off the app store in Android.

      Here is another link about the hassle IOS users have to go through to fix the Apple Maps bloatware fiasco:

      click here

      Thank God for Cydia. It helps bridge the gap with making IOS more useful, closer to Android.

      And I am sure senior citizens love doing this in order to get rid of dangerously bad amps. Because jailbreaking is the best way to say "it just works".

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    18. Google does not even bother to really test apps before they can Play with your information. Users and security folks have to test them in the wild to see what they do with your data. Apple has very strict testing to make sure the app does not do things it is not supposed to do. Developers do not like that, especially for trial apps, but Apple helps protects users. I agree that Maps was a disaster. Apple fired the PM. Can you name any examples of Apple "dangerously bad amps (sic), or was that just hyperbole? Google has killed quite a few services that did not perform as expected. Google does not seem to care about the quality or safety of Android apps.
      Google did not even bother to encrypt data traffic between their data centers, so NSA had an easy time copying all Google (and Yahoo) data and searches that went thru the fiber. Apparently "Do no evil" does not mean 'Try to prevent evil.'

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    19. "Apple has very strict testing to make sure the app does not do things it is not supposed to do."

      More press-release boilerplate. When the fact is that Google is no different from Apple in this regard. In fact, they are better sometimes. Look at the maps fiasco. Google sure tested theirs more than Apple tested theirs.

      The dangerously bad maps is not hyperbole. Here is one of the news accounts that Apple will not tout in their PR: "Dangerous Apple Maps glitch directs drivers airport runway

      Dangerous software issues aside, there still remains the fact that Apple tried to force this bloatware (as superior as its virtual keyboard is) on users, instead of a benign policy of just telling people that the new maps program is there and letting them choose it..

      Bad bloatware.

      In regards to the last point, you again miss the obvious such as "Apple iPhone 5s Fingerprint Database To Be Shared With NSA. I suppose Apple is just cutting to the chase with "Do Evil".

      By the way, I am learning Swype. Do you use it? It's great. My IOS using brother likes it. He hacked his phone in order to use it.

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    20. I think you are dodging the point, and you still cannot back up your claim that 2/3 of iPhone apps are bloatware/crapware. Google only runs Bouncer to check for things like virus, trojans and takes your $25 to put you in the Play Store. That is why there are so many apps in the Play Store and why so many of them (tens of thousands) do virtually nothing. Bouncer is easy to avoid, as a demo at Blackhat 2012 proved. Apple does extensive testing before an app can be in the App Store, something anyone can verify with a simple web search. Why are you still pretending otherwise?
      Swype works fine if you take the learning curve to memorize all the special keystroke commands. Without them, it can actually take longer to type than a regular keyboard. I have to use it because one of my Android phones has such an inaccurate screen that the stock keyboard is unusable, and the replacements I tried are not much better. A lot depends on screen accuracy and responsiveness, where iPhones have a clear advantage in responsiveness. 2x the app responsiveness than a Galaxy s4 or HTC One, for example. Even the old iPhone 4 is much more app-responsive than these top-end Androids.
      http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/10/01/retina-display-response-time-vs-competition/
      Which brings me to your earlier slur about iPhone "inferior specs." Specs are one good indicator of value, but they are not always a good surrogate for phone performance. The iPhone 5S has the fastest phone processor on the planet and runs synthetic benchmarks fastest. That does not mean the iPhone 5S will perform every function the fastest. But when you see how fast and fluid the phone performs when you touch the screen and use apps, the performance is very satisfying. Much of that is iOS responsiveness, something you cannot measure with phone specs alone. Android has made a lot of improvements to eliminate the annoying OS lags due to their OS design, but they have not caught Apple. We'll see what they do with KitKat soon.
      Finally, the Fingerprint Database and the alleged quote you refer to from the "satire site" do not exist. This has been debunked. Why are you trying to mislead readers? http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/sep/27/no-nsa-iphone-5s-fingerprint-apple

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    21. "I think you are dodging the point, and you still cannot back up your claim that 2/3 of iPhone apps are bloatware/crapware."

      I did back it up, and named examples, and even provided a quote from Apple from their own website that it can't be deleted. This included a dubious claim that the bloatware was a necessary part of the OS: something which is doubtful, and would only be true if IOS were very badly designed.

      "That is why there are so many apps in the Play Store"

      Yes. of course, because Google makes it easy for app makers to serve their users.

      "and why so many of them (tens of thousands) do virtually nothing. "

      Same is true of the Apple app store. I know from experience of wading through worthless apps to find good ones. I did this with IOS before I did it with Android. Since I am objective, and not a blind "fanboi" who acts like an unpaid Apple PR person, I readily recognize the fact that while Apple is much worse in some aspects (alternative keyboards, Flash video), it is really no different from Android in some areas, such as what you describe.

      "Bouncer is easy to avoid, as a demo at Blackhat 2012 proved."

      Of course. I have the freedom to directly obtain Android APKs and avoid markets, without hacking the phone. Maximum ease-of-use, user-oriented policies.

      "Apple does extensive testing before an app can be in the App Store, something anyone can verify with a simple web search. Why are you still pretending otherwise?"

      I know this, but I am pointing out this objective fact that it makes for a crippled, less useful. And it is often repugnant and politics-driven, or driven by mere whims of those in Cupertino. I have given the examples of alternative keyboards and Flash video players (objectively much worse on Apple than Android); For politics, I can point out the situation of the drone strike app, which is censored for political reasons and nothing more.

      "Swype works fine if you take the learning curve to memorize all the special keystroke commands. Without them, it can actually take longer to type than a regular keyboard."

      Not at all. It took me all of 10 seconds to learn it, and to type a lot faster than the clumsy way. And I didn't even have to watch a video.

      "I have to use it because one of my Android phones has such an inaccurate screen that the stock keyboard is unusable"

      Many love the stock keyboard. Many hate it. However, Apple tries for force a single unusable "stock keyboard" on everyone. The Android world lets you choose. Choice is objectively superior to the forcing of one inferior "one size fits few" option.

      "and the replacements I tried are not much better."

      This leads me to believe you didn't even try any replacements. The ones offered are wildly divergent.

      "A lot depends on screen accuracy and responsiveness, where iPhones have a clear advantage in responsiveness. 2x the app responsiveness than a Galaxy s4 or HTC One, for example. Even the old iPhone 4 is much more app-responsive than these top-end Androids."

      Which becomes a difference of microseconds of response time, and makes zero difference to users. You are touting nonexistent technical differences, like saying it is a big deal that a screen shows 4 million colors instead of 2 millions.

      " Which brings me to your earlier slur about iPhone "inferior specs.""

      This wasn't a slur. It was objective fact.

      "Finally, the Fingerprint Database and the alleged quote you refer to from the "satire site" do not exist."

      I admit I did not check this one enough. You are right. I admit when I am wrong. I have yet to see you admit that you have been wrong all along in the repeated claims that less choice for users, and harder to use hardware is somehow better than more capable, easier to use systems. Like you keep doing with onscreen keyboards.

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    22. Debunking the claim of any difference between Android (Google) and Apple when it comes to the NSA scandal and privacy:

      "Apple, Google, Microsoft and 6 other companies reportedly feeding NSA, FBI info through data sharing pact "

      This is not the refuted fingerprint story.

      Also, in regards to this: "But when you see how fast and fluid the phone performs when you touch the screen and use apps, the performance is very satisfying"

      I saw an actual iPhone in the field a few weeks ago. One at a Sam's Club. I was so surprised at how tiny it was. The onscreen keyboard was way to small to use. Too small to see, too small to type on. Android typically lets me rotate the thing horizontally so I can actually type.The 5S (with its fingerprint taker which not linked to the NSA for at least a litle while) didn't do it. The thing was too small and unfriendly. Apple, in this area, as in many, gives the needs and ergonomic considerations of users no consideration at all. This is why there is only one size offered in their current line-up. Samsung, in contrast, has taken the lead exactly due to its responsiveness to the needs of users. This is why they offer Galaxy phones in different sizes, and also why the Android world offers hardware keyboards always... something Apple refuses to do (another major blunder on their part).

      All the "synthetic benchmarks" in the world don't matter if it is tough as hell to type on the thing, and the screen is way too small... not out of user considerations, but because someone in an office in Apple.com had a bad idea and didn't care about the user experience.

      Steve Wozniak recently said: "The iPhone is Too Small but iPad mini is Too Big"

      No wonder the Galaxy Note 3 is a top, leading edge phone now. There are many design mistakes Apple makes that Samsung is too smart to do.

      The Woz continued: "Wozniak also addressed the iPhone, which he says was just not big enough for his needs. He referenced Apple's major rival Samsung and its Galaxy S4 and Galaxy Note 3 smartphones as offering much bigger and better experiences on a smartphone, along with the HTC One....

      "When you went into a store and saw the iPhone had the smallest screen of all, that was a little disappointing." He said larger screens were "easier to deal with" offering "more space for your fingers."

      The S3 is a joy to use. I would recommend it to anyone considering paying a lot more to get a lot less with an iPhone 5S (and its tiny screen size, and useless tiny keyboard area).

      The solution for now is for those who want the best possible user experience with smart phones to go with HTC and Samsung and not Apple.... at least until Apple becomes less hidebound and embraces a user-centric marketing model.

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    23. Waiting for the iPhone guy to give us one example of an actual replacement ihone keyboard you can install without jailbreaking, in regards to

      "If you do not like the iPhone keyboard, there are many good alternatives"

      As one who is not a "fanboi", I can find much to criticize with any system. But this person seems to go to great lengths to cover for any of Apple's poor decisions and design flaws, no matter how objectively bad.

      A perfect example of this from him/her is the insistence that it is good that Apple gives users less freedom to run apps that they need.

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    24. "Samsung Galaxy S3 outpaces iPhone 5S, 5C in touch accuracy" from C-Net:

      "Samsung's device is far more accurate in its response to touch inputs."

      Interesting what you find out when you move outside corporate PR and fanbois who treat tech company matters like football team fandom.

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  7. But that said virgin mobile customer service was always pretty good to me.

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  8. CDMA iPhones do not let you use cellular data when you are on a call (WiFi data works). Not enough radios for this to work. VoLTE will resolve this eventually.

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  9. I thought LTE solved the problem? With vm iPhone my data connection would drop as soon as I made the call even when I was on LTE. Never remember verizon droid charge doing it!

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    1. An Apple spokeswoman told Gizmodo that:

      "iPhone 5 supports simultaneous voice and data on GSM-based 3G and LTE networks. It is not yet possible to do simultaneous voice and data on networks that use CDMA for voice and LTE for data in a single radio design."

      Apple decided to not add an extra antenna (that's what other 4G LTE devices do on Verizon) to handle voice (while another antenna handles data). Sprint uses the same iPhone model as Verizon.

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    2. Just another example of pay more, get less with iPhone. You'd think you'd get more antenna paying such a premium price, not less.

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  10. Thanks for the info! Never knew that it was a single antenna issue.

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  11. More on my experiences: I DID get this deal after reading this. They promised the phone within 3 days... it came the next day. I am upgrading from an LG Optimus Slider.

    The screen seems dimmer than the Slider, a little bit.. .but the S3's graphics are so much better otherwise. The "soft" touch keyboard is going to take getting used to: it is so easy to make mistakes, compared to the hardware QWERTY that the LG Slider has. But since the S3 is a major leader phone, there's a slider attachment available for it..... if anyone has seen or used one of these, I'd love to know...

    Now, reception. Virgin in this area (Sprint of course) is not as good as Verizon/ATT. Not by a long shot. But this S3 works better on it. Coverage seems 50% better.... 50% more chances of having data/phone coverage. There are still empty spots, but they don't seem as large. I don't know if this is due to a better "radio" in the S3, or simply the much faster chips in it are "nimbler" and better able to grab and keep connections... or (slim chance), Sprint chose to actually upgrade their towers by the end of October as they promised me.

    Volume. A big deal. I played my Slider through the car stereo a LOT. I had to crank both the phone and the stereo up to max in order to hear it. And even then, it wasn't loud enough. And now? The S3 BOOMS. No question about hearing things. This is a pleasant surprise.

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