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Updated: Good News, Bad News Changes Coming to T-Mobile Pay As You Go 8/17

T-Mobile USA has announced that it will be making changes to its pay as you plan effective August 17. The changes are:
  • A flat rate of 10¢ per voice minute or text.
  • A $3/month minimum charge. 
  • New data passes: $5 for 500MB good for one day, $10 for 1GB good for 7 days. LTE data will be available using these passes.
The plan changes seem like a good news/bad news deal. The good news is that the 10¢/minute rate is an improvement over current rates which range from 33¢ to 10¢ per minute depending on the denomination of refill applied. Texts are currently 10¢ so there's no change there.

The bad news is that the new $3 monthly minimum will be deducted from the account every month regardless of use. So someone who uses exactly 30 minutes or texts and someone who uses no minutes or texts at all will both have $3 deducted from their balance.

This is a bad deal for very light users. Currently T-Mobile pay as you go users are only required to top up every 90 days. Once a user has added $100 in airtime they achieve "Gold Rewards" status and only have to top up once a year. The minimum refill is $10 so the minimum monthly cost is $3.33/month or 83¢/month for Gold Rewards customers. With current plans there are no charges for non-use and funds in the account rollover and never expire as long as a refill is made every 90 or 365 days. This has made the pay as you plans popular with those who only need T-Mobile service intermittently, including regular international visitors who are in US off and on. One can build up a balance during periods of little or no usage to be consumed when needed.

Data is currently not available on T-Mobile pay as you go so the new data packages seem like a positive step. However there's a catch. Right now users can freely switch between pay as you go and T-Mobile's $2/day and $3/day unlimited talk, text and data plans. Data on the $2 day plan is throttled to 2G speeds but the $3 day plan includes 200MB of high speed data. So a person who only needs data while traveling or special events can build up a balance by adding $10 every three months and switch one of the day plans when they need data.

Hopefully for light users the old pay as you go plan will coexist alongside the new one. But T-Mobile's announcement makes it sound like the new pay as you go plan will replace the current one. T-Mobile has traditionally grandfathered discontinued plans so if you are on the old pay as you go plan before Aug 17, you can probably keep the plan indefinitely. But if you switch from a grandfathered plan there's usually no switching back. Jumping back and forth between a data-less grandfathered pay as you go and a day plan for data will probably not be possible.

Update 8/12: A T-Mobile spokesperson has provided me with additional details regarding the pay as you changes:
  • Effective August 17, 2014, the new 10¢/minute or message flat rate Pay As You Go plan with $3 minimum monthly charge will replace the the current Pay As You Go plan with a 33¢ to 10¢ per minute rate but no monthly minimum.
  • Current Pay As You Go customers will be grandfathered on the existing Pay As You Go plan. Their service offering will remain the same as it is today including any Gold Rewards benefits. If they want to migrate to the new plan they can contact customer care.
  • If grandfathered Pay As You Go customers switch to a different plan, including the $2 or $3 day plans, they will lose their grandfathered status and will not be able to switch back to the old Pay As You Go plan.   
Source: T-Mobile

Related: Prepaid Operator Profile: T-Mobile

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  1. It really stinks that the new data passes expire!! They should roll over until fully used, just like the cash balance for voice minutes and texts.

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  2. Wow, bad news in my opinion. I was going to port a number over to their pay-as-you go, but not with the $3 per month charge. The uncarrier is becoming the carrier again.

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  3. ONLY TOURISTS ARE USING THESE PLANS ANYWAY.

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    1. have an old tmobile number on paygo and not a tourist here.

      seems to me the $3 month charge is to cover the costs for e911 and whatever federal taxes and fees there are. the economics for paygo is probably not working out so great for tmobile nowadays with all the gold rewards users who are only putting $10 a year on their tmo paygo numbers. so that's like an extra $36 a year, on top of $10 a year as a gold rewards user. that's still not too bad. just put $50 on the account and you're good for the year if you're a tmo paygo "gold" users.

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  4. They should have increased the 3$a day unlimited talk and text with 200mb of 4G data to 300mb of 4G data.

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  5. I could live with the $3/mo minimum/access fee if T-Mo would lower rates and add paygo data. But let's face it, T-mo isn't looking to compete with paygo rates. They only want to get rid of "deadbeats" (in their eyes) who are skating by on $10/year to maintain an active account that hardly gets used.

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  6. Yeswap do you have a definitive yes or no if current pay as you go users are grandfathered in because i have a balance of $35 saved up on my extra 3rd line I don't really use? If I'm grandfathered in I'll keep it but I don't want a 3 buck minimum fee monthly. This is only my extra 3rd line I barely used so I'm fine with old rates. But,-if the force new rates on us old timers I'll just port the balance to my main T-mobile line and I guess just have to lose the number hmmmmm which I rather keep though.

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    1. All I have is the press release. Everything else is speculation. I've emailed T-Mobile's media relations team a number of questions including whether current PayGo users will be grandfathered. I'm update this post or publish a new one when if and when I get a reply.

      Based on T-Mobile's past practices I think current pay as you go users will be grandfathered as long as they don't change to a different plan.

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    2. Hello, Dennis. I got an used Moto G and I am looking for the best PayGo plan. I am a light user and I prefer no monthly minimum charge if possible. thanks.

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    3. Lycamobile PayGo has no minimum charge provided you make a call or send a text at least every 90 days. Next best GSM options are Airvoice or H2O with a minimum cost of $10 every 90 days and PTel at $10 every 60 days.

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  7. I have both of the grandfathered $1/day plans, plus 3 more Gold Status plans. I will add $10 to all of them this week, to give me a year on each. They will be worth more on eBay when this change kicks in.

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  8. If you want the current PayGo plan good for a year, buy it activated on eBay for as low as $29 for 950 minutes. They must activate the account, and use some time on each?

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    1. These activated PayGo SIMs are still available with 900 minutes for $29. 3.2c/minute, good for a year. Minute-hoarders should buy one before they are gone.

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  9. Well, T-Mobile will continue to do just fine in prepaid. They just announced that they passed Sprint as the #1 Prepaid carrier. 15.64M users. WAY ahead of AT&T and Verizon:
    http://www.tmonews.com/2014/08/t-mobile-now-1-prepaid-carrier-overtakes-sprint/

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    1. And that's something to be proud of, Tmobile's needs more arpu,not less.

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    2. I.E. bottom feeders?

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  10. my guess: those with gold rewards paying $10 a year will be grandfathered. why? no notice that tmobile is getting rid of it. personally have received no email or text notice of the discontinuation of my gold rewards status. so for myself, not jumping to the conclusion that others are doing thinking the new paygo is wiping out the old stuff for those who have gold paygo status.

    this new announcement of the new paygo came out today and is to go into effect on the 17th. that's too short of proper time to give notice that something is being taken away - particularly for people who do NOT even bother to read PrepaidPhoneNews and who do NOT visit HowardForums to search out for alerts about this nonsense.

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    1. To be honest, you are also jumping to conclusions too, just a different one. This post will be updated with an answer soon enough. No contract means terms can change without notice.

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    2. good gawd. everyone is jumping to conclusions. the ridiculous end of the world is near because people want to believe that the people with gold rewards are now going to have worthless $3 pieces of lead.

      there's a post over on howard forums where someone talked to tmo cs where the cs person said you can keep your existing paygo, but if you switch like if you want data for a day, then you lose it and there's no going back.

      so the end of the world, and jumping to idiotic conclusions where your tmo gold rewards becomes worthless, is only going to happen if you switch. therefore, don't switch and no end of the world for you.

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    3. thanks for the update. see this is as it should be instead of how people read too much into the original announcement of the new paygo. the current soon-to-be-old paygo and gold rewards status if you have it will be grandfathered. it's not the tmo end-of-the-world armageddon for tmo paygo gold rewards users. just don't switch and you won't get sucked into the jump-to-conclusions $3 hell of the new tmo paygo. lol

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  11. Now that T mobile doesn't have anyone to buy them they have to start making more of a profit. Their new plan seems similar to AT&T's Pay as you go plan but a little bit cheaper. AT&T charges 20c for texts and almost $10 per month. This is good news for PTel many T mobile Pay as you go customers will probably port over to PTel's PayGo plan since even locked T mobile phones will work on PTel. 5c/min, 2c/text, 10c/MB and $10 every 60 days seems like a better deal.

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    1. Ptel is an excellent value; I have it. But T-Mobile has much better voice and sms coverage with free roaming on AT&T and regional carriers.

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    2. I don't think many T-Mobile prepaid customers will go to Ptel to avoid the $3/month charge, since they will have to pay a minimum of $5/month. If they wanted Ptel rates, they would have already left T-Mobile.

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    3. @Anonymous OP: I have a dream Vodafone will come to their senses and re-enter the US market by purchasing T-Mobile USA and properly launching the Vodafone brand in North America. Their arrangement helping New York Bell create Verizon Wireless was crap.

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    4. Anthony S Jennings:

      Funny, from my time long, long ago, AirTouch was a spin-off by Pacific Telesis. AirTouch also formed a joint venture with US West New Vector, which eventually assumed the AirTouch name. Vodafone did not enter the United States until the spring of 1999, when Vodafone acquired AirTouch. Later in 1999, Bell Atlantic and Vodafone AirTouch announced plans to merge, with the successor company to be called Verizon Wirlesss, 55% owned by Verizon Communications and 45% owned by Vodafone AirTouch, later renamed Vodafone.

      New York Telephone (it was never called New York Bell) was paired with New England Telephone which became NYNEX at the time of the Bell System breakup in 1984. Later, NYNEX and Bell Atlantic merged, retaining the Bell Atlantic name.

      In 2000, GTE and Bell Atlantic merged to become Verizon Communications.

      Even though many areas of the United States have had a Bell Operating Company, in New York, the "Bell" trademark was not used or referred to for local operations. It was always New York Telephone, or more commonly referred to as New York Tel and NEVER New York Bell.

      On the other hand, California-based Pacific Telephone (a Bell System company) was renamed Pacific Bell effective January 1, 1984, and continues to do business as: Pacific Bell Telephone Company, d/b/a AT&T California.

      Bottom line: New York Bell did not "help" Vodafone create Verizon Wireless. That distinction belongs to the former Bell Atlantic.

      HELLS_BELLS

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  12. they are greedy. they tricked everyone to sign up with old rates,over take sprint and start charging more.i dont care if they over take sprint.im on a sprint mvno in philly with sprint sparks speeds paying 2 cents a minute, 2 cent a text, and 2 cents a megabyte for overages.sprint prepaid brands sound good right now

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    1. Your RingPlus plan has lousy voice quality and you have to listen to those dumb recordings before each call. They talk forever to answer CS tickets, and the echo is awful, since they run all your calls through their servers. They charge you 99c to change to another number recycled from a deadbeat or you get all the old spam texts. No thanks.

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    2. "they are greedy." For what, charging an extra 26c over what you pay on Ring+ ($1.99+.75 tax). For lowering all their per minute rates except the $100 top up? For giving you 1c/mb daily and weekly pass options? Makes no sense. T-Mobile also gives you good coverage and CS, unlike Ring+.

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    3. "...T-Mobile also gives you good coverage..."

      Not compared to ATT, VZN, or even Sprint... It has "uncoverage", instead.

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    4. T-Mobile coverage is much better than Sprint here in Northern California. Nationwide T-Mobile and Sprint's coverage footprints are roughly equal but T-Mobile prepaid includes voice roaming. Everyone's needs are different. If Sprint works better than T-Mobile for you use it.

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    5. You flunk map reading. T-Mobile prepaid has free roaming on AT&T and regional carriers. Go back and compare to Ring+ Sprint native network to see uncoverage.

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    6. No, only inside their tiny "coverage "area. I live outside of it, and tried to get T-Mobile, and they wouldn't even let me get the service at all. Flat out refused. Which makes the "T-Mobile prepaid has free roaming on AT&T and regional carriers", since their policy was to offer no service at all on AT&T/etc. I've also heard of T-Mobile shutting off people's accounts if they move from the 15% or so of the country covered directly by T-Mobile into one of these roaming areas.

      Even if they did allow it, the T-Mobile roaming area was crippled and without data.

      A large portion of the US map consists of area covered by the three carriers but not by the uncarrier.

      I don't know about Ring+ at all, but at this time, until it builds towers, T-Mobile is just an asterisk on the list of actual national carriers.

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    7. Yes, I checked the map. T Mobile free roaming over a large percentage of the country, through partners, is talk and text only. The "uncarrier" is an un-data coverage. Even if I found away around T-Mobile's ridiculous ban on letting me get their prepaid in my area, I'd have to give up data entirely. Only a dumbphone would work on it.

      Again, in an area covered to varying degrees... but at least covered, with data plans from the three real carriers.

      See the map:

      http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-coverage

      All that light green is no-data, right? If I am reading it wrong, then I am a map-reading idiot.

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    8. "..tried to get T-Mobile, and they wouldn't even let me get the service at all."
      "Even if I found away around T-Mobile's ridiculous ban on letting me get their prepaid in my area, I'd have to give up data entirely. Only a dumbphone would work on it."
      It is VERY simple. When you activate online, enter the closest city that has Tmo coverage. Port in later. If you are in a roaming area, you will have AT&T coverage. Tmo does NOT shut you off for roaming on PayGo; my sister has roamed ~99% for 10+ years. She even thought she had an AT&T plan, cause that is what it always says on her screen.
      And of course any Tmo or unlocked GSM phone will work, not just dumbphones.

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    9. But does your sister have data, in all those light green areas?

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    10. If T-Mobile roaming is without data, well, I suppose 1991 lives again, with its primitive cell plans, with no data at all.

      I've been looking all over for info on plans for T-Mobile to build more towers and remove the "un" from -carrier and -coverage. But ...crickets. I mean silence, not Cricket Wireless. T-Mobile needs a new slogan: "We're there to make Sprint look good".

      AT&T and Verizon are the Chevy Suburban and Ford Excursion cruising in style down the carrier data super highway... and Sprint is like a Plymouth Breeze that can almost keep up.

      T-Mobile, though, is a Yugo that isn't fast enough to get off the shoulder and run with the big boys. What they have been doing so far is like buying new seatcovers for the Yugo seats. That doesn't cut it.

      As for " Tmo does NOT shut you off for roaming on PayGo", perhaps your sister is lucky. I have heard of TMO kicking people off, who pay for TMO but only roam, and never use TMO's "native" network.

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    11. Another failure in map reading. Or maybe it's denial at work here. For those who want facts, not bias, here is a color test for you:
      http://assets.fiercemarkets.net/public/mdano/amis/sprinttmo-ov-big.jpg
      If you see more yellow than magenta, you are color-blind or really need an eye exam:
      http://assets.fiercemarkets.net/public/mdano/amis/sprinttmo-ov-big.jpg
      Click on the map if you need some zoom.

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    12. The map presented above doesn't take into account data roaming, which greatly expands Sprint coverage....but doesn't expand T-Mobile coverage.

      Data IS important in the 21st century. T-Mobile at this point is fit for the 20th century. That's facts, not bias. Find a map suited for this century, and you will see that T-Mobile is a distant fourth in regards to data roaming.

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    13. Except that there's no roaming of any king on any of Sprint's prepaid brands except for Virgin Mobile Custom where it costs extra

      T-Mobile has no extra cost voice and text roaming on all prepaid plans and no extra cost data roaming on prepaid plans priced at $50 and up.

      On postpaid, Sprint and T-mobile both have no extra cost voice, text and data roaming will similar restrictions on the amount of roaming permitted.

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  13. I think Truphone is a better choice than the new plans for light talk, text and data. 9c each, and free incoming sms. T-Mobile's new plan only makes sense compared to Tru if you use a lot of data on specific days or over a week and don't want to carry a hotspot those days.

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    1. I should have mentioned that incoming calls are free on Truphone also.

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    2. can you use a truphone sim on a locked at&t phone?

      was looking at the truphone voip app which looks nice for wifi calls.

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    3. You need an unlocked GSM phone for Truphone because it is roaming on both T-Mobile and AT&T.

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    4. roaming on both at&t and tmobile? wow! thanx for the info :-)

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  14. THIS IS A BAD NEWS FOR CHEAP PEOPLE!....... NOW, WE CALL CHEAP PEOPLE "LIGHT USERS"? LOL

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  15. Dennis: If I put one of my PayGo lines with Gold status on the $2 or $3/day plan before 8/17, is it your understanding that the Gold status will still apply to this line as well as the regular PayGo? IE, I will only have to add money once per year? When I switch back and forth now, I do not lose Gold status.

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    1. Pay By The Day expiration is a a very confusing topic. I think this is how it's supposed to work:
      1. On Pay By The Day, funds expire 90 days (one year for $100 refills) after activation/refill.
      2. Gold Rewards status only applies to Pay As You Go, not Pay By the Day. If you have Gold Rewards, switching to Pay By The Day changes your expiration date to 90 days from the date of the switch and subsequent sub-$100 refills only extend expiration by 90 days
      3. If you had Gold Rewards and you switch back to Pay As You from Pay By the Day (not possible after Aug 17) your Gold Rewards status and expiration data are restored.

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    2. Thanks, Dennis! I think this explains why a refill on one Gold status line only extended my service 90 days. I must have been on a daily plan when I added the money. I did call CS and they changed the service expiration date to a year, but by then I may have switched back to the PayGo plan.

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  16. On Tracfone, for under $7 a month, you can get 60 minutes and 60 texts and 60 mb of data. This tmobile plan sucks by comparison.

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    1. The only Tracfone phones that have minutes, text and data in separate buckets are the triple-triple phones on these phones a 60 minute card gives you 180 minutes, 180 texts and 180MB of data for $20/90 days

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    2. "This tmobile plan sucks by comparison."
      Well, tracphones and tracfone customer service REALLY suck in comparison to T-Mobile prepaid.

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    3. t-mobile $3/month plan gives you 30 minutes talk or text with each additional minute at $.10/minute. for very light users who need at least a lifeline phone to make doctor appointments or such or need to a contact number this is as good as the low cost bushphone plans.
      math

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  17. Some are saying the Pay-by-the-day plans are not going to be affected (i.e. will not need to be grandfathered). Any truth to that?

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    1. Only Pay As You Go is changing. The Day plans are not So far as I know.

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  18. First of all....this is a great site.

    Will T-Mobile PAYG Gold Status grandfathered plans be able to buy the new data packages ($5 and $10) offered and still remain grandfathered?

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    1. No, the new $5 and $10 data packages are only available with the new $3/month Pay As You Go plan.

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  19. T-Mobile is garbage. have fun spending $3 a month plus one of the highest minute rates around

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    1. but it's better than Sprint, right?

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    2. yet another tmo hater troll. please ignore the troll. just let the troll be alone by his sad little self as he sits grumbling in a tiny lonely corner worshipping whatever carrier is on his old phone.

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  20. More T-Mobile prepaid changes:
    "Simply Prepaid:" Customers choose from "T-Mobile, GoSmart Mobile, Univision Mobile, or Ultra Mobile, easily finding the perfect wireless solution to suit their lifestyle and budget"
    Maybe in T-Mobile stores.

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  21. Can grandfathered paygo users get the data passes too?

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    1. I don't think so. We should know for sure tomorrow.

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    2. No. ...and it appears that you are charged that $3 up front.

      I'm not liking this much at all.

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    3. Confirmed, on the legacy pay as you go plan there's no option to add data.

      The new $3 Pay As You Go Plan is really a monthly plan. You get charged $3 as soon as to switch to it and another $3 every month.

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  22. Details from My Account terms and conditions: "...Pay As You Go: Service available for 30 days after activation/refill/conversion; then account is suspended. If you have a balance, your plan will resume for 30 days with 30 voice min. or SMS messages. After this 30-day period, your account is suspended. If funds available, additional minutes/messages @ $0.10/minute or message."

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  23. This plan may require a new strategy for switching back and forth with the Daily plans, since the $3/month gets charged each time you switch back to PayGo, apparently. More incentive to use Google Voice and two accounts for some people.

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    1. Explain how GV would help.

      I think it kills the $2/$3 daily plans unless you know that you'll need it for exactly 2 or 3 days (2 for $3 4G, 3 for $2 2G). Anything else and it seems that you're better off just adding the $5 or $10 plan and sticking with NuPaygo.

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    2. Unlimited TnT is included with the daily plans. You are only thinking about the data.

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  24. Well it's here...and PayGo is essentially gone. It is now a $3 monthly plan with 30 minutes/texts, with anything over that billed at 10¢. They charge you up front when you switch to the plan.

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  25. If they charge you $3/month do you still have to refill $10 every 90 days?

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    1. No, but "Sufficient balance required to use service."

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  26. Will the $3/month rollover if unused?

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    1. You pay the $3 up front. Use or lose the 30 minutes or sms. But your balance rolls over until eaten by the monthly charge or extra minutes or sms. The data passes probably are funded by your balance as well.

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    2. So the 30 minutes I pay for every month won't rollover if I don't use them within 30 days?

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  27. If you don't like T-Mo PayGo, you can always pay $10 in up front for Ptel PayGo (2 months) or Tracfone PayGo, or $15 on Net10 PayGo. Move to AT&T network and pay $10 up front for PureTalk Flex PayGo, AirVoice $10 plan (PayGo), or AirVoice or H20 PayGo (3 months). Too inexpensive? Jolt is only $15 up front. GoPhone and Red Pocket are $25 up front (3 months). Move to Sprint? Try Real PayGo for only $20/month up front. Eco and Expo PayGo for $10 up front. Red Pocket for a bargain $5/month up front. I hope you feel much better now.

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    1. Didn't you have to pay $10 up front on T-Mobile's old pay as you go plan for 90 days of service and a rate of 33c/minute

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    2. Yes, but that previous $10 didn't vanish.

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    3. At 33c/minute, the $10 vanished more than 3 times as fast!
      Unless you were just a hoarder, and never used anything.

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    4. All you had to do with the old setup was use pay by the day once in that 90 days. That reset your plan for another 90. If I knew I was going to use the phone, I used PBTD. Otherwise, it just sat on PayGo with no movement in the balance (but there for emergencies).

      The knew plan might work better for others, but why get rid of the old plan?

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  28. 9 minutes. That is all you got for $3 per month under the old $10/90 days PayGo plan.
    Now you get 30 minutes/month for your $3. Or, you can talk 30 minutes any time over 3 months with the new plan, and still pay $1 less than before.

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    1. The thing is, if you were going to use a lot of minutes over a number of days, it made more sense to just top up with $100, and get that 10¢/min rate anyway. Sitting on legacy paygo was a good way to bridge the time in between PBTD usage. That's gone now.

      It isn't PAYGO anymore It is a $3 monthly plan with 10¢/min overage.

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    2. $100 is a lot of money to pay for a rate of 10c/minute now you can get that rate for only $3.

      You can still use pay by the day and only top up $10 every 90 days.

      I never knew you could get another 90 days of service without adding money.

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    3. $100 is a lot of money...however, it is true pay as you go....which this $3 monthly plan is not.

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    4. The true pay as you go plan had a rate of 33c/minute of you only added $10 every 90 days that's more then 3X the price of the new plan. If it costs less then 1/3 the price who cares if it's a monthly plan or not.

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  29. The new PayGo plan works better for me. I used to switch back and forth, but I could not predict when people would call and I needed to talk to them for a while. The money went fast at 33c/minute, since I did not fund $100 up front. I am going to convert to the new plan and buy data passes when I want them. I will get 7 days of data for $10 instead of 3 days, and enjoy the 10c/minute rate for my light use.

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  30. Never got ANY notice of this on my two pay as you go phones. Not even a stinking text message that the carrier could've sent! Smells like a class action lawsuit to me.

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    1. Don't be silly. T-Mobile let you keep the legacy plan; you should thank them. Maybe you did not read your contract terms, but lawyers would. They would find that T-Mobile can stop service and change plans. Only really stupid lawyers with no other work would waste their time and money on a case here.

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  31. @Dennis Bournique: Regarding the $3/month minimum charge: are taxes added to that $3 fee or included in that $3 fee?

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  32. Telecom taxes are included but T-Mobile will add applicable state and local sales taxes and point of sale e911 fees to all online airtime purchases.

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  33. i have over $200 in prepaid t-mobile minutes (over 2,000 minutes) which will expire next december. so, do i add more minutes the same as i have done to save my rollover minutes i will never use or go to this $3/month plan which is perfect for my needs.
    regardless, even though i have always used t-mobile prepaid i feel i get ripped off when time expires before i've used my minutes. now i pay less than $9/month buying 1,000 minutes good 365 days. i can only save myself 66% by losing most of minutes and changing plans. you can't win. you can bet that you'll have to hunt for this deal on t-mo's website same as their prepaid $30/month unlimited data plan (100 minutes talk included with extra minutes at $.10/minute)

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    1. If you have $200 in your account you must have Gold Rewards so you only need to add $10, not $100 next December to extend rollover your balance for another year.

      It's easy to switch to the $3/month plan online or by calling if that's what you want. But if you switch to it you can never switch back to the legacy pay as you go plan.

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    2. The good things about switching to the $3/month plan are:
      1. No matter how much you paid for your prior or future refills, you get the best rate of 10c/minute or text;
      2. You will be able to buy data passes when you need them, just like the old days; and
      3. You can switch back and forth between the daily plans and the $3/month plan as needed.

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    3. Have you switched from the $3 plan to a daily plan? Does the switch happen immediately or after the current $3 plan month ends?

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    4. It depends. I switched on the mobile site with my phone, and the change was scheduled for my $3 plan anniversary. Online, the plan change showed as pending. I called CS to make an immediate change; did not want to take a chance on a double-charge. The CS rep thought I had the option to switch immediately, but that does not show up on the mobile site (the one you get when you have no mobile data).

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  34. update for the Legacy Account holders: if you want to keep your granfathered-Gold Rewards status, you will have to refill $100 at a time to maintain the 10 cent per minute rate. anything lower than $100 shot into your account to roll it over for another year will have a sliding scale rate instead.

    if you refill with less than $100 just to extend your expiration date, you will have a higher per-minute charge

    i had to call CS to make an adjustment & pay up to $100 and now have another 1000 minutes to use until next Feb 5, 2016

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    1. Just add $50 if you don't talk and text much. 11c/min is not bad, with 15% gold discount.

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    2. Legacy with $50/yr nets you ~39 min/month @10.8c/min. $3 plan gives an avg of ~42 min/month for the same $50, with 30 min use or lose. Your choice.

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  35. PS: under the Legacy Gold Rewards Member plan before August 17, 2014

    i don't get charged the $3 monthly fee

    you just have to make sure to refill w/ another $100 refill amount by the end of the expriation date

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    1. Write that date down cause it does not show in your account.

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    2. On the new plan you do not have to add money at all until your balance runs out. For very light users, less than 83 minutes per month, it costs less than legacy with $100 top up each year.

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    3. With Legacy and $50/year you get about 39 minutes/month over a year. $50 on the current plan gives you about 41 but it's use or lose for 30 minutes. Your choice.

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    4. My main line is on PTel PayGo. But I liked legacy PayGo because I could park a number on it for $10/year and switch to the $3 plan when I needed data and/or unlimited talk & text for a day or two when traveling or at events without working WiFi. I still have a legacy PayGo SIM but with the daily plans no longer available it's only useful to me for voice & text roaming when outside of native T-Mobile coverage.

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  36. T-Mobile's new PayGo plan is nothing special, but the old one was the most complicated PayGo plan on the market. And without Gold Rewards it was ridiculously overpriced as well, with rates as high as 33 cents per minute.

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    1. Once you switch to the new plan, all minutes are 10c, even if they cost 33c before. I did one line with $10 pins cause I just used it with the $1/$2/3 plan when needed.

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  37. Post #56 by SnowyWhite on HoFo T-Mo prepaid forum mentions a $1/day T-Mobile Legacy plan for sale on eBay that lets you call all day for $1, as long as you call T-Mobile subscribers. Otherwise you can call 12 hours, before 7am and after 7pm on the same day.
    http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1855866-2-amp-3-Pay-Per-Day-gone-without-notice/page4
    This old plan would work well with a Google+/Hangouts number.

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  38. "ONLY TOURISTS ARE USING THESE PLANS ANYWAY"

    Wrong. I have the old (now discontinued) paygo plan and Gold Rewards status. It makes for a great emergency phone that you can also take with you anytime you want to make calls. And you get that for $0.83/month and only have to bother with the phone once PER YEAR by refilling with a $10 refill card. I couldn't care less about the "expensive" $0.33/minute rate if that is in fact what my rate ultimately works out to after many YEARS of doing annual $10 refills. That $0.33 is the best money ever spent when your car breaks down and you need to call a tow truck. I think paying $360/yr or even $1200/yr as some people do for cell phone service is NUTS. Who wants to be tied down to a phone and reachable 24/7 anyway? And if you really need/want data, just get a tablet (better device for data anyway) and use free Wi-Fi. Or if you really must have data access for certain days outside of Wi-Fi spots sign up for a cheap data plan.

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  39. This crushes the tmo- Google voice app its free, free calls and text, just need wifi

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