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Users Reporting Slower Than Expected Speeds on Page Plus' New LTE Service

Page Plus users who have managed to get a Page Plus LTE SIM have been posting speed tests on Howard Forums showing download speeds of 3.5 Mbps or less on LTE.

That's significantly lower than the 19.6 Mbps average download speed that PMag.com found for Verizon LTE in nationwide testing earlier this year. There were a few reports of slightly higher speeds, up to 6 Mpbs, but most were clustered in the 3-3.5 Mbps range. Some examples from Howard Forums users:
  • BuonaDomenica got 3.34 down / 0.81 up, 41 ms ping on a Galaxy S3 in Palm Springs CA 8:56 PM
  • GPz1100 initially got 6 down / 2 up but is now getting only 3 down / 1 up on a Galaxy S4 in Chicago
A couple of users did side by side testing comparing a phone on Verizon with one on Page Plus. Both found the Verizon phone was significantly faster:
  • markdiesel: Page Plus 3.55 down / 1.42 up on a Droid RAZR. Verizon 9.42 down / 8.68 up on a Note 3. Western NC, 11AM
  • Viper32: ran 15 tests, Page Plus best 3.43 down / 1.62 up, worst: 3.10 down / 0.72 up. Verizon: 24 down 16-18 up. Test were run at vary times and locations across 2 states with five different devices including a Galaxy S5, Note 3 and RAZR MAXX HD.
At this point we don't have a whole lot of data, I've only been able to find about a dozen speed tests by Page Plus LTE users on social media. I think It's too early to say whether Page Plus LTE speeds are being deliberately slowed. However, the clustering of download speeds around 3.5 Mbps does look suspiciously like throttling. But a misconfiguration in some piece of network hardware could also responsible for the low speeds and that can and presumably will be fixed. Also, keep in mind that data speeds are highly variable, sometimes moving the phone just a few inches can result in vastly different speeds. If you have Page Plus LTE and want to waste a few MBs on a speed test, please post your results in the comments section.

Assuming the worst, Page Plus throttling LTE speeds to 3.5 Mbs down, 1.6 Mbps up is not the end of the world. Most of the tests show low ping times of around 60 ms, which is good and typical of LTE. 3.5 Mbps combined with low ping should deliver a snappy browsing experience and stutter free audio and video streaming. Plus, the arrival of LTE on Page Plus means you can finally use the latest LTE phones on Page Plus without the need for hacks.

Related:
Page Plus LTE Now Live! Here's How to Buy a SIM and Activate
Prepaid Operator Profile: Page Plus

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  1. Bummer, but I am still porting over to PagePlus.

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  2. Last paragraph... 3.5 Mbs down, 1.6 Mbps down <-- UP

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    1. Thanks for the heads up. I've fixed that typo,

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  3. Dealer Kitty Wireless has now done testing that confirms these results at http://www.kittyforums.net/showthread.php/11848-Page-Plus-4G-speedtest-results?p=120925&viewfull=1#post120925

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  4. LOL, Verizon treating their packets like they are better than everyone else's. Imagine that! My move to AT&T is looking even sweeter. Especially while using my OnePlus One, that doesn't work on Verizon.

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    1. Overall they are better than everybody else.

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  5. Has anyone tested if LTE speeds on Verizon prepaid are as fast as Verizon postpaid speeds?

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    1. They are identical (both extremely fast) according to numerous tests by Viper32 published on Howard Forums.

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    2. I tested Vrz PP with Galaxy S5 in Los Angeles.
      Average speed 15Mbps/sec

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  6. PP LTE = PP 3G ???

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  7. Makes Cricket wireless throttled speeds look fast as even their 3g is throttled faster than the Page Plus speed tests are showing...
    and five lines for hundred bucks... and 10 gb for twenty more on a line.. or $55 for a single line.. if you've got coverage... sadly even if you want to get away from old ma bell... harder to justify...
    shameful that Big Red is wanting to get their mvno users red in the face...




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    1. at&t is no more or less Ma' Bell (capital AT&T) than Verizon.

      http://subjunctive.net/klog/images/2008/Att_history.jpg

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    2. Interesting history, but if accurate there's been 7 "Bells" added back to the other AT&T's lineage vs.. the one so called baby Bell Atlantic formed 1984 that eventually went into Verizon 2000 with GTE "bell system"..... more accurately... go before 1984 and the true BELLs have a long if monopolistic history....., .. and granted the colloquial term Ma Bell (as even a Wikipedia contributor notes) is used for any part of the conglomerate and in general use has been applied to any telephone company... BUT

      nevertheless since AT&T 1885 acquired it's founder 1889 American Bell founded as Bell Telephone 1879.... using the old Ma Bell (aka the original and controlling "Bell")
      for current AT&T is logical , historic, and likely more will associate it with AT&T.... than the GTE merger with 1984 Bell Atlantic from the old AT&T bell telephone system that's now renamed Verizon 2000...(unless perhaps old enough to have GTE or Bell Atlantic as landline?)

      Now it may be that relative few probably think of utilizing the term "Ma Bell" in terms of wireless service today.

      But the point was made... Unless the speeds improve or one has to have Verizon coverage... paying more for LTE from Carlos Sims' PagePlus for slower throttled data than even AT&T's throttled Cricket Wireless charges isn't the exciting game changer some expected from the Verizon mvno LTE... of course the supposedly Richest Man in the World would likely want you to charge up his bottom line anyway.

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    3. At least here in southern California, the term "Ma Bell" is not used for the former General Telephone (GTE) and Contel, now Verizon exchanges.

      When one speaks of "Ma Bell", in California, the general reference is for AT&T and it's Pacific Bell Telephone Company (formerly Pacific Telephone Company) and Nevada Bell Telephone Company.

      When the then Bell Atlantic and GTE merged their respective companies, on the landline side, the companies were known as (and continue to be) Verizon East, the former Bell Atlantic (New England Telephone, New York Telephone, Bell of Pennsylvania, The C&P Telephone Company(s) - Virginia, West Virginia, Maryland and Washington, D.C., Diamond State Telephone and New Jersey Bell), and Verizon West includes the former GTE and Contel exchanges throughout the United States regardless of geographic location.

      Even today in Verizon's southern California exchange service territory, the CPUC (California Public Utilities Commission) required yearly mailing of Verizon's Products and Services guide inserted within the landline telephone bill (also available on-line in the documents section for those who receive an e-bill), the bottom of the page continues to make reference to "General Telephone", The latest edition was mailed in July 2014.

      Of course, the real reason Verizon continues to use the "General Telephone" trademark is so that they don't lose it due to non-use, as has happened to many companies who stopped using a well-known brand, and lost it due to years of non-use.

      If and when Verizon sells, spins off, shuts down, closes or abandons it's landline exchange service/business, expect the General Telephone and GTE brand/trade names continue to be used.

      Getting back to now wholly-owned Verizon Wireless, I expect an announcement from Page Plus and America Movil at any time in regard to the parameters of the 4G LTE speeds.

      In addition, if the recent 4G LTE speeds as noted for Page Plus, the question to ask is will this same method be used for other MVNO's and their Verizon MVNO 4G LTE offering,

      HELLS_BELLS

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  8. It's slightly faster then good evdo cdma speeds in 3g. If you count the fact that most Verizon mvnos besides Page Plus have 3G only but may allow 4G lte flashed Verizon devices then Page Plus's real world advantages for the time being end up being a slowish 4g slightly faster then 3G. The ability to use 4G lte phones with no flashing and just a sim. And the ability to still put non Verizon phones on via flashing (something which no other Verizon mvno can still do at this point and I don't expect it will last on Page Plus either.). Not a earthshaking improvement for sure. I think at this point I'll stick with Verizon prepaid lte for truly high speeds.

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    1. I'm with you on that one. I won't be making the switch until this we find out for sure if speeds are being throttled or this is just the typical hiccups in a new service offering.

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  9. Fired up Samsung galaxy s3 this A.M.. Ran two speedtests, results as follows: 80ms ping,3.1down/.09up & 67ping 2.8down/.58up. Tests run in HOUSE in southeast,mi.. Note: Verizon prepaid a little faster (average of five tests run in august & sept) 83ping,3.9down/1.1up..AT&T thru consumer cellular(4g lte) much faster in House location but Verizon coverage still much better in fringe areas outside of house. Added Info: can't find old data to show #'s but pageplus 3g speeds in House were much slower than these 4g lte speeds.

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    1. Moved above "sim card" to 4g lte Samsung galaxy s4(additional carrier frequency bands in my area). Ran another speedtest 56ms ping, 3.2down/1.1up in HOUSE--much happier with that result since it provides a decent internet surfing experience!!

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  10. What does one expect from an MVNO...miracles?

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    1. Truth in advertising?

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    2. Page Plus isn't advertising fast LTE, just LTE which is a radio technology rather than a transmission speed.

      But I agree that if they are throttling they should disclose that they are.

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  11. basically you get what you paid for. So to get latest phone and higher speed, Verizon's single line plan for $60 per month is indeed not bad at all: discounted price on all latest phone, unlimitted call/text plus high speed LTE of 2GB. I already switched back from PP to VZW.

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    1. Been with verizon postpaid now for 8 months on single line $45 plan with 250 MB. Called customer service last week and threatened to pay my Etf and go back to PagePlus. I stayed with verizon and got the $50 loyalty plan with unlimited talk and text and 1 GB data. So there are two loyalty plans. Good deal for me because I have a subsidized Motorola Droid maxx with the plan. Hope this information helps you and the readers. The good thing with PagePlus is No taxes. I have to pay about $4.50 in taxes above the $50.

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  12. I'll stay with VZW prepaid for now. For sure, VZW prepaid is NOT being throttled.

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  13. i get faster speeds on hspa+ with both at&t and t-mobile.

    so glad i dumped verizon and sprint. both new carries have faster lte also!

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  14. On Verizon Prepaid using Callingmart to pay your bill, You can get 3.5GB of LTE data a month for $62.

    If you do the math, It's $52 a month for 2G of LTE data a month if you use Callingmart to pay your bill. How? Buy 3GB of data and use it over 2 months.

    Using Verizon Prepaid with Callingmart is a better value.

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    1. I am not following. Can you explain further?

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    2. Google Callingmart. Set up a account. Pay your Verizon Prepaid bill thru Callingmart with the promo codes and it lowers your bill. For example. Say you want to put $50 into your Verizon Prepaid account. With the monthly promo codes, Callingmart will charge you $46. Verizon Prepaid will take $45 out of your account for your monthly bill. Leaving you $5 left in your account.

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    3. How about taxes? Going through calling mart do you have to pay taxes? Does Verizon prepaid add on taxes? Tell us more about your experience because I'm interested.

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    4. Callingmart has not charged me taxes or fees.

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  15. No taxes. That's the beauty of using Callingmart. Say you want to put $70 on your Verizon Prepaid account. Callingmart will charge you $66 No tax. They send you a pin that adds $70 to your Verizon Prepaid account.
    Verizon will take $45 No tax out for your monthly fee. Then you buy 3GB of data which will cost you $20 no tax. That will leave $5 left in your account. And you will have 3.5GB of data. And it cost you $61.

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    1. Thanks for the breakdown. I know you get 90 days to use the 3 GB of data, but The 55 plan from PagePlus gives you 3 GB data (to be used in 30 days). And when I was with PagePlus the downside was only 3G speed and I had to use an older flashed phone. Now that they offer 4G lte I could just put a PagePlus sim card my fairly new phone and go with that when my contract is up in 16 months. I can live with my $50 loyalty plan with just 1 GB. Hopefully plans will come down in prices even more. Either way, this is a win-win for PagePlus and mvno customers on the Verizon network.

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  16. What speeds WERE we "expecting"?

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  17. I've been on Verizon postpaid for nearly 20 years, since before they were Verizon back when it was Bell Atlantic Mobile. I had two grandfathered unlimited lines that I kept for the past couple of years, not because I needed unlimited data, but because I would have to pay more to switch to a capped plan. After a corporate discount, we were paying $145 a month for this plan. We need about 6GB total data per montth. I took the plunge and ported these two lines over to PagePlus on Monday. After finding a wholesale club at pageplusdirect.com, I get the 55 plan (unlimited talk and text, 3GB data) for 49.50 a month per line. I'm saving $46 a month. That's less than Verizon prepaid. As for speed, my results have also been in the 3.5 range, but, in my area, that's about what I got on Verizon. Regardless, it has made no functional difference in real world use. All the things I did on Verizon work just as well on PP: Netflix, Spotify, Gmail, web browsing, etc. Sure, my number doesn't go as high on the speed test app, but so far that's the only difference I've noticed.

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  18. Not surprising at all....Tracfone is infamous for blatant lies in there marketing
    They literally used to promote Simple Mobile as Unlimited data, back when there was a very clear data cap.

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  19. I get way better speeds on US Cellular Prepaid on my Galaxy Note 2. Think I'll stay with them for a long time. I get 2GB high speed data for $65/Mo taxes included but well worth the price since I can rest that my smartphone will stream Internet Radio and even youtube flawlessly.

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  20. I just installed the 4g sim and i am getting about 4 and 5 in NY, 10550, before it was about 1.5 with a hacked 4g s4, i also think it's awesome compared to what i am paying and it's a lot better than before, and now i can use any 4g phone.... i install cabletv and there is a plan for 14.99 that only gives you roughly 2mbs , still wonder why ppl pay for these speeds when you can get much better with a cell phone... of course there's the caps...

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  21. I'd be curious to see a Pages Plus speed test after the soft data limit has been met.They say the first 5GB are at 4G then it's unlimited 2G.... but is it 2G v1, or 2G Edge? That's a pretty big difference there.... you could probably listen to pandora on edge, but would have difficulty doing anything on 2G v1.

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    1. All the TracFone brands, including Page Plus, throttled speeds are less than 64 Kbps, usually much less. Users report web pages time out and that throttled data is only useful for store and forward protocols like email and some messaging apps.

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