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Sprint Blocking Loophole That Allows New Prepaid Phones on MVNOs

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Effective April 17, 2016, Sprint will no longer allow new, never activated Boost Mobile, Virgin Mobile or Sprint Prepaid phones to be activated on Sprint MVNOs. The struggling CDMA carrier will make a change to its MVNO activation system that result in the rejection of any phone from its Boost, Virgin or Sprint Prepaid brands unless said phone has been used at least 12 months on the Sprint prepaid brand it was sold for. The change was announced  by RingPlus CEO  Karl Seelig in a forum post today.

As Seelig points out in the post, this is not a policy change by Sprint but the closing of a loophole. Prepaid devices were always supposed to be blocked from MVNO activation until they had been "aged" for 12 months on their original Sprint prepaid brand.  But Sprint's MVNO device activation software, whether by accident or design, would allow brand new prepaid devices to be activated provided the phone had never been activated on the  Sprint prepaid brand it was intended for.

The loophole seems to have been introduced shortly after Sprint revised their rules for MVNO activation last February to start allowing prepaid phones on MVNOs after 12 months aging. Before that change, Sprint's prepaid phones were completely blocked on MVNOs.

As word of the loophole spread I'm sure many thousands of inexpensive Boost or Virgin Mobile phones like Moto E's or LG Volts were activated on Sprint MVNOs. The unlocked GSM version of the 2nd generation Moto E LTE lists for $120 and even now, near its EOL, goes for $90 on Amazon. Boost, On the other hand, Virgin and Sprint Prepaid Moto E's are widely available for $30 or $40 from big box stores. With the closure of the prepaid loophole the supply of inexpensive phones for Sprint MVNOs is likely to dry up. That could mean slower growth for Sprint MVNOs, especially ones that depend on BYOP, like RingPlus. FreedomPop has always relied more on selling attractively priced, mostly postpaid, pre-owned Sprint phones that have been cleared for MVNO so they will probly be impacted less.

Based on Karl Seelig's post, I think the post-April 16 activation situation on Sprint MVNOs will look something  like this:
  • Any Boost, Virgin or Sprint Prepaid phone that hasn't been used as a Boost, Virgin or Sprint Prepaid phone for at least 12 months will no longer be allowed to be activated on any Sprint MVNO.
  • Boost, Virgin or Sprint Prepaid phones that are currently active on a Sprint MVNO will be grandfathered and can remain on that MVNO indefinitely, provided they are never deactivated
  • Boost, Virgin or Sprint Prepaid phones that were deactivated from a Sprint MVNO can not be reactivated on any Sprint MVNO unless they were used on their respective Sprint prepaid brand for 12 months. 
  • I think plan changes will be OK for grandfathered phones but phone swaps and probably phone number changes will cause grandfathered phones to get deactivated.
  • There should be no changes to the rules for postpaid phones. They have to be free of any financial obligation to Sprint to be used on an MVNO. That means fully paid for, out of contract, no EIP payments due and not last used by a customer whose account is suspended for non payment.
  • Sprint network capable iPhones and Nexus Phones purchased at full price from the Apple Store or the Google Play Store should still be usable immediately on Sprint MVNOs.

Of course what really matters is not what Sprint says the rules are, but how new rules are implemented in software. The changes Sprint made last February were very buggy when first introduced and blocked the activation of large numbers of phones that should have been eligible. Once again, anything could happen. If you have a phone, prepaid or not, that you want to use on a Sprint MVNO, I recommend activating it before April 17 to avoid the chaos that's likely to follow Sprint's rule change.

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  1. Anything Sprint and byod is , always has been and afaic always will be a big ********g MESS. Expect phones that shouldn't be caught in the web be caught in the web and phones that should be caught get away. Sprint never has been able to run byod well because of their ambivalent attitude towards it just like their two faced attitude towards their mvnos (they want them to compete with inferior byod and rates comparted to say Tmobile mvnos, a huge handicap). But there is a reason why they are in last place. Because they "earned" it.

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  2. "If you have a phone, prepaid or not, that you want to use on a Sprint MVNO, I recommend activating it before April 17 to avoid the chaos that's likely to follow Sprint's rule change."

    But don't ever think of deactivating that Pre-Paid device from that line of service for any reason whatsoever. Unless you want to then activate it with its branded service for 12+ months before moving to where you want through BYOD. Need to warranty it or remove it from service for any reason, you are SOL!
    Ain't Sprint(CDMA)wonderful!

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  3. I'm ready to swear off anything Sprint forever, they've been twisting in the wind for the last decade , I'm as cheap as they come when selecting service age even sprint is sub-par for my standards.

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  4. Sprint inexorably marching towards the rubbish heap of history...!

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  5. Sprint is making all the right moves to ensure nobody becomes a customer. They are about to see sales of prepaid devices plummet.

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    1. You say that like they are making a ton of money on the sale of prepaid devices. At $100 per handset (or less), I seriously doubt that is the case

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  6. Here, virgin mobile code little work around that problem ##847446# And ##786# and for data ##3282#. Up ur Sprint or lower ur prices to ur mvno companies

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    1. ##847446# - program mode
      ##786# -reset
      ##3282# - reset
      Might not want to do that as a hard reset will wipe your phone.

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    2. Actually:
      ##847446# (##VIRGIN#) enters manual programming mode for some Virgin Mobile phones only.
      ##786# (##RTN#) enters manual programming mode for Sprint, Boost Mobile and some Virgin Mobile phones.
      ##3282# (##DATA#) enters field test mode
      None of them will fix a phone that's blocked from activating by Sprint and all three can make a working phone non-functional if you don't know what you are doing and change any settings.

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    3. Actually:
      ##847446# (##VIRGIN#) enters manual programming mode for some Virgin Mobile phones only.
      ##786# (##RTN#) enters manual programming mode for Sprint, Boost Mobile and some Virgin Mobile phones.
      ##3282# (##DATA#) enters field test mode
      None of them will fix a phone that's blocked from activating by Sprint and all three can make a working phone non-functional if you don't know what you are doing and change any settings.

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  7. Another reason to ditch the dying Sprint and switch to an ATT mvno like Cricket, h2o,gophone, etc

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    1. Yes, a real national carrier, unlike Sprint with its pockets of coverage surrounded by vast seas of 0-bars.

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  8. Ringplus is about to take a big hit for new sign ups because of this. Now you got to take a chance with CL and Ebay and buy a used phone and hope that it pass Ringplus BYOSD check. Good luck people.

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    1. Agree, but you won't necessarily be taking a chance on the ESN passing if you have the seller run the ESN for you.

      Unfortunately most of the bulk re-sellers won't run the ESN for you and or even sell Sprint device for use on an MVNO because of the complications with the FED. If you do purchase one and it won't pass the MVNO ESN check Tool there is usually no returning it if it was specified as Sprint only. Be careful with Sprint only in the description, because it usually means Sprint Post-Paid only.
      So you need to find individual sellers to purchase from, which I would advocate doing anyway, but doing so leaves out a lot of available devices.

      Another problem will be devices that come with a removable SIM, which are all newer tri-band devices. If the used device does not come with the SIM it came with you will have to purchase a new SIM with the correct Part Number so there is an additional expense and wait time.
      You also are not getting a new device with a warranty.

      All of this just complicates the whole process compared to just grabbing a new phone off the shelf and activating it.

      It is definitely a losing proposition for Ring Plus with the hype surrounding their limited promos offerings.

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    2. Or you can just pay boost, VM, or sppd rates and get the new phone you want. Sheesh people, for unlimited service, boost isn't that uncompetitive.

      Ring plus can also get some skin in the game and actually stock and sell phones. You know. Like other REAL mvnos.

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    3. Ringplus does sell phones. Just go to their store.

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  9. sprint is going to loose some of its mvno customers which will ultimately reduce sprint's total number of customers. if sprint is thinking that all mvno customers will go back to sprint parent line, it is not going to happen. Many of them will switch to gsm mvnos.

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    1. I think they're less worried about customers switching to the more expensive Sprint owned brands but concerned with people using subsidized devices without paying the subsidy. There's a reason the GSM Moto E is over $100, but the Verizon, Sprint, and US Cellular Moto Es are all about $30... the network is subsidizing these phones and expects to make it back over the course of the year. The rates Ting and RingPlus charge customers don't take repaying these subsidies into account. That's why you can have 2 phones on Ting for around $30 total if you're not a heavy user but Virgin, Boost, and Sprint Prepay all cost minimum $30/line.

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  10. This policy begins April 16?

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  11. I just bought 3 sprint Moto E and put it on the Truely free plan. I know what sup. After 4/17 these won't be able to activate on Ringplus.

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    1. And you won't be able to upgrade them from Truly Free without deactivating the device, so your 3 Moto E's will be held hostage by R+ on Truly Free, unless you upgrade to Member+.

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    2. You can upgrade from Truly Free to a paid plan.

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    3. I am on Truly Free and they offered me 2500 x3 upgrade last night in Dashboard.

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  12. How is -any- Sprint phone on -any- Sprint service, bad for business??
    I just do get this with Sprint (Im a current customer)

    These phones are already locked to a Sprint-only LTE signal anyway, not like they are going to Verizon or GSM.
    MORE customers using your product = GOOD

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  13. I would think this will really hurt a company like RingPlus. I know I probably never would have tried them if I had to buy an overpriced used phone for their service.

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    1. I know I for sure would not have a RingPlus line if not for this loophole.

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  14. what if someone needs to hard reset the phone and reactivate it ?

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    1. Rerunning hands free activation or manual re-programming should be OK. Just don't request the phone be deactivated by the operator.

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    2. "Rerunning hands free activation or manual re-programming should be OK. Just don't request the phone be deactivated by the operator."
      Absolutely, the device will be married to the line it was activated on after the 17th. No swapping it to another line and no moving it to another service provider.

      I have 3 SPP Volts on RingPlus that have never been activated outside of Ring Plus and Ting. Crazy to think that a two year old device will be required to activate on SPP for 12 months if I were to deactivate them. Hopefully Sprint will see how ludicrous this all is and at least release the ESNs of older devices.

      The 12 month policy should just be from the release of the device for sale on the service.

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    3. "I think plan changes will be OK for grandfathered phones but phone swaps and probably phone number changes will cause grandfathered phones to get deactivated."

      A device has to be active on the service for a number change or port in, so that will not deactivate the device.

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  15. The is the beginning of th end people. Ringplus and other MVNO will take a major hit. There will be few sign up after April 17 make my words. No new money coming in for Ringplus and you know what that means. They will start cancelling plans left and right to top afloat.

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    1. Yes I agreed with you. I do see Ringplus and alot of MVNO going out of business with this move by Sprint. If I can't buy and Sprint prepaid phone from Bestbuy and put it on Ringplus. I'am going have to say No thanks. Too much stress trying to get a clean phone from Ebay or CL.

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  16. Didn't know sprint could afford these weird restrictions but I understand why, allowing mvnos to basically use Virgin/boost phones and advertising for basically nothing.

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    1. "There should be no changes to the rules for postpaid phones"

      Just a minor quibble. I think the term "postpaid" refers to the plan rather than the phone in this case. The reference is to phones on which the carrier has no claim. So in reality they are in anything "prepaid" phones.

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  17. Only Sprint would close a loophole that made their service more popular than it otherwise would be.

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    1. Of course expensive unrecovered subsidies are "popular". Tragedy of the Commons.

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    2. Simple then. Stop the stupidity of subsidizing phones and enter the 21st century.

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  18. I am switching to non-Sprint base operator. I will not give my money to Sprint even penny.

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    1. I will stay with RingPlus and Sprint. I don't think it will be that tough to buy used phones that will work just fine. The phone service is basically free. C'mon people, really? Stop the complaining and go figure out a new source of phones.

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    2. I agree. My phone stays on RingPlus. Millions of Sprint phones and 1-year used prepaid phones to choose. The market will adapt.

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    3. "I am switching to non-Sprint base operator. I will not give my money to Sprint even penny."

      You will see a benefit: hugely better service with something AT&T or Verizon based, and slightly better service with something on T-Mobile.

      There's really no benefit with staying with a significantly inferior network like Sprint other than the low cost.

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    4. "I will stay with RingPlus and Sprint. I don't think it will be that tough to buy used phones that will work just fine. The phone service is basically free. C'mon people, really? Stop the complaining and go figure out a new source of phones."

      The "go figure out" is a huge hassle and takes much longer than what we have had: the ability to grab a new phone at Best Buy (checking the MEID at the store) and then putting it on RingPlus right away. It will be indeed be that "tough" to go through all the hassle due the loophole closing.

      The hassle of doing this through mail order or Craiglists will be a huge change. "The market will adapt" indeed, and RingPlus, already iffy as it is, will indeed take a major hit.

      And I for one also strongly oppose Sprint hassling people who only want to do what they want with phones they have paid money for.

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  19. Many Sprint MVNOs have already started to offer service on other networks Ting, Expo, Eco, TPO and soon FreedomPop just to name a few. If RingPlus and other Sprint-only MVNOs want to stay in business, they need to jump to another network ASAP. Unless you need the Verizon network, there's no reason to buy a CDMA phone anymore. Sprint phones can't be used on the Verizon network and Verizon phones can't be used on the Sprint network. Verizon can pull it off by having the best network in the country with only AT&T as a real competitor, Sprint definitely can't say the same. It's time for Sprint to just die and leave the wireless market to operators who actually know how to run a business.

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    1. I think it is inevitable Sprint will die. Yet another barrier. Why bother? Just go with T-Mobile and be done with it. I mean seriously - who would pay Sprint for 12 months? Actually, why is anybody paying Sprint - period? When freemiums are giving it away? This will probably hurt Motorola, LG and the other makers of low end Sprint devices. There might be fire sales in the near future.

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    2. Sprint will either fix their business or be sold to a cable or satcom. Nobody knows at this point. They had an excellent quarter and cost-cutting is helping, and closing the loophole will help Q2 more. Would you pay $90/month for two unlimited everything lines? My daughter and husband have kept Framily plan since 2013 and love it. 9 people still in their group.

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    3. "Would you pay $90/month for two unlimited everything lines? My daughter and husband have kept Framily plan since 2013 and love it. 9 people still in their group."

      Uh. Hmmm. No. For a lot of the cell phone populace, unlimited data is simply not needed. WiFi is available for many at home, work and to some extent while at play. Cell data for these people is a filler, not a mainstay. I satisfy all my cell needs with a 1200/1200/1200 FREE plan from RingPlus. Free, as in $45 less than $45. Refer: my use and the popularity of Project Fi.

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    4. "I think it is inevitable Sprint will die. Yet another barrier. Why bother? Just go with T-Mobile and be done with it."

      T-Mobile is only a little better than Sprint. Go with one of the two much bigger, much better, truly national networks instead.

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  20. Hofo ID: Grateful4AdviceMarch 29, 2016 at 3:11 PM

    Sprint has a right to earn the subsidy on their phones.

    Sprint continues to erect obstacles to customers using their network. This mismanagement warrants a shareholder class action.

    Ringplus needs to bring their best promotions over the next three weeks then start selling phones like Freedompop.

    If I were Sprint I would promote trade ins then sell those to MVNOs

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    1. "Sprint has a right to earn the subsidy on their phones."

      They have a right to wish for one, that's all. Just as I have had a right to enjoy super cheap mid-range Sprint droids which I have bought new for a song to use only as MP3 players.

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    2. "Sprint has a right to earn the subsidy on their phones."

      So why not sell some decent unsubsidized phones for people to buy & use on ANY Sprint MVNO or even Sprint itself? That would benefit them more than trying to force people into pre-paid "contracts". The 12 month rule is basically locking people into a contract without the customer knowing the terms of this pseudo "contract". Not sure how prepaid MVNO's can legally claim "No Contract Plans" when there is the little known unwritten rule which is effectively as contract.

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  21. What happened to my post??

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    1. Is it showing now? I just found one from anonymous in the Spam bucket and approved it.

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  22. exactly.... now is the time for ring plus to drum up as much business as they can! over the next two weeks they need to have the best promotions ever so they can get as many customers and live off of them until this problem is figured out

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    1. They haven't already been doing that? They knew this was coming as they'll the ones who are talking about it first.

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  23. seriously.... if ring plus doesn't see this as a marketing opportunity then they surely will go out of business

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    1. I wonder what this means for my Boost-bought iPhone 6 which I paid to unlock myself.

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    2. If it's unlocked it should still work on GSM networks even after Sprint blocks it from use on their MVNOs

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    3. But what about Sprint MVNOs? Can they block it even though it's IMEI unlocked? How?

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    4. Sprint controls whether an MEID can be used on the network. Unlocking is a GSM thing that's irrelevant to CDMA

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    5. Yeah, I understand that CDMA and GSM are different, but the unlock was from Sprint/Boost itself. Can they go back on their own unlocked?

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    6. Unlocking changes the phone's software to allow it to accept non-Sprint SIMs so that it can be used on GSM networks which don't whitelist phones by serial number.

      Unlocking is not needed to use a whitelisted Boost phone on a Sprint MVNO and unlocking doesn't whitelist it for use on Sprint MVNOs.

      Sprint's criteria for unlocking a Boost phone (12 months on Boost) is the same as its criteria for whitelisting it for MVNOs. So if a Boost phone was unlocked by Sprint it would also be eligible for MVNO use. Not because it was unlocked but because it was used on Boost for 12 months.

      If you paid to have your iPhone 6 unlocked, it was unlocked by a 3rd party not by Sprint. AFAIK, no 3rd party unlocking service can add a Boost phone's SIM to the Sprint MVNO whitelist.

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    7. It's probably too late to get new Boost iPhones or other clean MEID iPhones that haven't met the 12 month requirement unlocked via eBay sellers. The sellers have jacked prices to $100-$110, and the last one at $40 did not do or say anything (I have waited 8 days). Sprint has really tightened up the unlocking of new Boost iPhones in advance of April 17.

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  24. I don't mind used phones at all, but in Sprint's case getting ahold of a sim card is a whole other issue. Zach

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    1. If your used Sprint phone does not come with a SIM, call your local Corporate store or Sprint repair facility. If they have the right SIM, they will give it to you. If not, they will order it for you.
      Too hard? Search for the right Sprint SIM part number and buy it on eBay.

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    2. That almost cost me 20 some dollars! Thankfully I was able to get the charge reversed after they tried to gyp me with cheap phone case that broke in less a couple months. R+ sims are, or at least were, only $10 shipping included.

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    3. Btw R+ sells sims for $10 or so. That's how much it was for my byo i5's at least.

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  25. I'am calling it people. I bet you the next Ringplus promotions will be 3500 mins, texts and Mbs. free with a 30 dollar top up. No member+ needed. They are going to get as much people to sign up as possible before April 17 when all Bestbuy Sprint, Boost, and Virgin will no longer activate on Ringplus network.

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    1. Calm down , this is sprint, they'll probably forget or go back on it a day later.

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    2. I was right people. Ringplus is having a flash promo today at 3pm center time for 1 hr only. 4500,4500 texts and 4500 mb for free per month. I knew it. They got two weeks left before April 17 here the link https://social.ringplus.net/discussion/2748/the-borg-and-accretion-free-plans-updated/p1

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    3. You were Wrong, not right. Go back and read the promo plans again.
      Slowly, if necessary.

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  26. 've been caught by surprise. I just spotted this phone sale ad at ebay last Thursday and bought a new ZTE phone locked with Boost Mobile . The phone has arrived but can't go through the device swapping process at Ring Plus. Could someone knowledgeable of this issue tell me how to solve the problem? Thanks for your help.

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    1. I'm holding out for the Klingon and Dalek plans.

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    2. Sprint maketing plan: Exterminate! Exterminate!

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    3. It's more like: Let's go throw ourselves off the bridge we just made!

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  27. It sounds like these have been the Sprint BYOP rules for a year now. Why are people so butthurt that Sprint is going to close the loophole to stop people from cheating?

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    1. Many, including myself, feel Sprint's rules on using prepaid phones on Sprint MVNOs are too restrictive and hurt the MVNO's ability to add users and ultimately to survive. T-Mobile and AT&T allow their prepaid phones on MVNOs imediately, Verizon after one month. Sprint requires 12.

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    2. As the article mentions, the AT&T prepaid Moto E costs $50 more than the subsidized Sprint Moto E. If you don't want to wait a year, you can pay 3 times as much for your phone. Problem solved.

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    3. A sale is not a subsidy.

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    4. Yeah. Just wait until the AT&T version is on sale for $50 less than the Sprint version. Best of both worlds.

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  28. sprint is going to end up canabalizing on itself.

    ringplus growth will crawl to a halt.

    sprint played fast and loose with allowing the sales of new sprint prepaid, boost, virginmobile phones to really grow ringplus to try to keep its dismal numbers up.

    now sprint finally hired competent programmers who could actually code to implement the no-mvno-on-less-than-12month-prepaid-phones, and sprint's number crunchers determined the sprint mothership and its prepaid branches are losing more money by subsidizing the new prepaid phones that are instead going to ringplus.

    it's no wonder that ringplus is disguising its newer so called free plans with higher top up amounts, and with paid add-ons, and member+ 8month payments (because in 8months, those people will most likely want to get new lines to upgrade to other new promo plans that that will require some sort of continuing top up payments). ringplus is a hamster wheel pyramid that is a sprint experiment that sprint no longer wants to prop up.

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    1. Yeah, but they're not the only ones benefited. Ting and FreedomPop and others likely did too. Sprint MVNOS see the writing on the walls. TPO is just the latest to add GSM. More will follow I believe.

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  29. Hi Dennis,

    Today I tried various new box pack Moto E from Virgin Mobiles from shop but it does not pass the BYOP test on RingPlus website. 2 weeks back I was able to activate a new box pack Sprint Prepaid Samsung Galaxy Core Prime on RingPlus just fine. I just wanted to do this before April 17th but it looks like it is not allowing. Do you know if Boost Mobile Moto E would work?

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    1. I activated a Boost Moto E on RingPlus several months ago. It initially failed RingPlus' check but it passed and when I went back to RingPlus' checker it passed. Maybe checking on Ting clears some sort of flag or maybe the RingPlus checker is just flakey.

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  30. Thank you Dennis for your reply. Yes, I am able to activate the Boost Moto E just fine. For some reason, the Virgin Mobiles handsets from Walmart that I tried to check the compatibility were not passing the test. But then I returned it and bought Boost Mobile Moto E from Best buy and was able to activate it.

    To your point, I did check the Virgin Mobile handset on Ting & Swappa ESN checker apart from Ring+ and all returned same results that it is already in use. Only Virgin Mobile website could verify the handset and was allowing to activate. Not sure if Walmart VM handsets have something which locked them to VM.

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  31. Spring like to import buggy software from India because of buggycheap

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  32. Whoever in Sprint pushing for this policy should be FIRED. The goal for Sprint is to flood the market with as many Sprint phones as possible and make activation as easy as possible to boost market shares. Sprint does not really lose money on prepaid phones. They break even in worst cases.

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    1. The CEO said: "Save $2.5B in costs," and this helps. No more subsidizing phones for MVNOs which bring in far less revenue per line than Sprint brands.
      No, Son will not fire his CEO.

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    2. If you think they were making money on those phones, here is your big chance to become rich by filling the void.

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  33. I have a boost moto e I use on ringplus.

    Apparently, I can pay $12 to "somedudes on youtube" to unlock it.

    I've been thinking of unlocking it and using it both on ringplus as well as t-mobile by placing my t-mobile sim into it. I would do this as my t-mobile phone is old and doesn't support the newer LTE frequencies that the moto e is supposed to be able to support.

    Do you think swapping sims on this phone cause this phone to rejected an no longer function on either ringplus or t-mobile? (Or ting)

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    1. I don't know the answer but:

      When Sprint does a DSU (domestic SIM unlock) of a Sprint network phone it does not affect the phone's ability to work on the Sprint network.

      However, I haven't heard of any 3rd party being able to do an real DSU of the Sprint/Boost Mpto E. "Somedudes on youtube" might be using a method, such as flashing the baseband from a different Moto E version, that would break Sprint compatibility.

      Also if you let Moto E's activation on RingPlus lapse by not making the required call every 90 days etc., you would not be able to reactivate it on any Sprint MVNO.

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    2. You're better off getting the US Cellular XT1526 as that has a better chance of being unlocked and definitely has band 12 that will work. You probably just need to use the same "unlocking" method as with the Verizon model. Dennis, can you confirm this because I could only find one little burb about it working for the US Cellular model which seemed like it was just secondhand?

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    3. Sorry, I have no idea if the U.S. Cellular Moto E can be GSM unlocked like the Verizon one.Try searching the XDA-Devlopers Moto G (2015) General and Q&A forums.

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  34. Jason in PortlandApril 5, 2016 at 6:53 PM

    There's posts on the RingPlus forum from earlier today stating they will increase availability of loaner phones, offer device financing, and eventually allow members to sell their phone and top-up to another member. Perhaps this is their response to the new Sprint policy implementation.

    Also, non-member+ lines can enable roaming (at 14 cents per minute or 55 cents per megabyte, no additional charge for SMS) as long as their balance is over $50. Dropping below $50 disables roaming until the balance is over $50 again.

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  35. Dennis, could you please reach out to Sprint for official comment on the closure of the activation loophole starting April 17 and update this article? I find it strange that there are no official words or annoucements from Sprint and other Sprint MVNOs other than RingPlus.

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  36. ALERT: Sprint may be starting activation restrictions early for some MVNOs.
    RealMobile could not swap a new Boost LTE phone to my line this morning - Sprint error returned for both MEID and IMEI. MEID-IMEI was confirmed clear before and after.

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  37. It appears that this policy has some unintended consequences. I bought a brand new unlocked Nexus 5x two months ago, and after having trouble finding a Sprint sim card, finally got one with the right serial number for free from Best Buy.

    I proceeded to activate the phone with Freedompop, and LTE was working fine until one day, it stopped working. Customer service didn't help so I got frustrated and switched to RingPlus. Again, the same problem with no solution from customer service. Only 3G worked. I think Sprint was restricting LTE for me just because i got a new sim card that wasn't activated with them for 12 months, despite the fact that my phone wasn't subsidized.

    Finally got fed up and activated service with Tracfone on the Verizon network. Very happy with them so far.

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    1. It really says something when a Slim telco is a step up in customer service!

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  38. I have to admit, when I saw the story about Scratch Wireless, I wasn't surprized to learn they're a Sprint MVNO.


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  39. the end is coming! send all your bricks to Mexico for the WALL!

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  40. anyone know the exact deadline? tonight at midnight, Cinderella? Or tomorrow? I wonder if I should even try? or if it will be a waste of a few hours or more?

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    1. Sprint headquarters is in Kansas City so the deadline is probably Midnight CT tonight.

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  41. looks like fun cheap phone play time with RP is over, huh? anyone still trying? maybe it still works and sprint was just bluffing? awe man, this just kinda sucks. till the next loophole, guess I just be happy with all the phones I have for now. always looking for a new toy to play with though...

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  42. What's the verdict? Anyone try to activate a prepaid sprint phone today yet?

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    1. Just tested my Boost iPhone 6S IMEI on Ting checker. Still says they can move the phone to Ting and activate it.

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    2. Ting also says they can move my Ringplus number over and activate my HTC 626s from Virgin, which was never activated with Virgin.

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  43. I just checked the MEIDs of 2 Boost iPhone 5S and one 6S+, and a Virgin 5S that have never been activated on Boost. They all passed the FED at RingPlus and Ting. I wonder whether they would activate? Has anyone done this after April 17

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  44. I tried activating Samsung Core Prime (Spring prepaid, brand new). It will not activate. I tried today (after April 17).

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  45. I sold my Virgin Mobile smartphone that was activated on a Sprint MVNO when new out of the box in March '16. The MEID is still clear to reactivate on RingPlus and Ting after 24 hours of swapping the phone off my account.

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