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Samsung and LG Don't Slow Down Devices Too

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Lately, Apple has become a hot topic to talk about ever since it was discovered that they slowed down the performance of older iPhone devices. To their dismay, their rival smartphone manufacturers have chimed in on their misfortune by taking this as an opportunity to highlight their own products.

Yesterday, HTC and Motorola both released a statement that they do not practice slowing down older smartphone models. There was also a promise that Sony and Samsung would be looking into the issue and give their own statements as soon as the holiday rush is over. But it looks like Samsung is ready to talk and release its own statement.

On a statement sent to PhoneArena, Samsung revealed that they do not "reduce CPU performance through software updates" over a phone's life cycle. The company highlighted that their top priority is product quality, which they make sure to meet by going through multiple safety measures. These measures are set in place to make sure the battery life of a Samsung mobile device is extended throughout its duration.

LG, on the other hand, released a short yet direct message on the subject of whether or not they slow down CPU performance on older devices. Their response: "Never have, never will."

For its part, Apple has already released an official statement on the matter. You can read that official statement on this post. As for what they intend to do, they have announced that they will be reducing the price of battery replacement on out-of-warranty iPhones. Instead of the $79 usual price, the price will be brought down to just $29. If you have an iPhone 6 or later, you're eligible for this discount.

To be fair, it really isn't expected that anyone else would admit slowing down smartphones. But with the statements released by these Android manufacturers, it's a reassurance that users are in good hands. There is, however, reason to doubt this; especially with Samsung-- who has been known for its heavy TouchWiz UI. This skin, on its own, is responsible for slowing down devices that have not been optimized properly.

Now that these manufacturers have responded, all that's left is to wait for a statement from Google. And yes, we're keeping an eye out for it.



Source: Phandroid

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  1. So much shade lol

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  2. 10 Years of build reputation, one crazy mistake can getting rude with greed.

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    1. ...10 years of bendgate, antennagate, 2017 IOS upgrade glitches, etc etc etc.

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  3. Lets not forget the combustible note 7.

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    1. If the battery was removable, Samsung could've just shipped new ones.

      Instead, they locked it in and ensured that the entire device (as well as their entire brand) was marred by the perception that their phones double as impromptu hand grenades.

      Just pull the charger plugs and pray you have enough time to throw 'em.

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    2. To be fair, Samsung was transparent about the disaster Note 7. They quickly apologized for the fault and tried to fixed it. Apple, on the other hand, first it blames its customers, then it denied until now.

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    3. And the GTA mod with the Note 7 weapon.

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    4. Exactly. The real problem here is that manufacturers are increasingly employing immature in-house designs (Samsung battery, Apple processor) in hopes of achieving a competitive advantage vs using mature COTS parts and their accompanying reference designs.

      A battery that doesn't have enough mechanical gap to expand when it heats up might explode. A processor that demands more current than its battery can provide in some operating conditions (too cold, too old) might brown-out and crash.

      Of course the lack of transparency and full-spin PR measures is part of the problem, but it's a stretch to call this "planned obsolescence" - they are design defects. I have a hard time believing if LG or Samsung overspec'd the CPU or underspec'd the battery that they wouldn't throttle the CPU down to keep the voltage within spec -vs- a more expensive remediation. Fortunately for them, they aren't facing this hurdle (at the moment).

      But let's be honest here, go look at phonescoop or notebookcheck database. There are TONS of Android phones that intentionally underclock Snapdragon COTS parts from DAY ONE! If you root them, you can drive them back to nominal specs (at the cost of battery life). If anything, Apple was aggressively pushing higher performance while the hardware was in prime condition then walking it back later -vs- reducing the design spec. They are going to pay for that now.

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    5. "To be fair, Samsung was transparent about the disaster Note 7. They quickly apologized for the fault and tried to fixed it."

      To be fair, Samsung dragged their feet on this at the start. And then they delivered a second model of defected exploding Note 7, which is pretty outrageous. And along the way they were harassing and threatening users who had their Note 7 explode on them. Which is pretty offensive.

      The Apple response has been a lot quicker than Samsung's. And without harassing Apple customers.

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    6. "without harassing Apple customers"?!???

      how about being harassed by the iOS 11 update that screwed up people's iphones in the first place and then being forced to go through each subsequent iOS 11 iteration update hoping it was the fix but where each did not fix the problem. that's the drip drip drip torture of iOS that first screws up your iphone and then each iteration afterwards fails to fix the problem while apple says nothing until apple is forced to publicly make an admission of its screw up.

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    7. Apple probably saved your butt, even after their battery was a couple of years old.
      Samsung cared so little that they put your butt at risk of explosion or fire, twice, from new batteries.
      It's pretty clear who had your butt covered and who didn't.

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    8. What about all the other models that Samsung has made that has bot combusted? Are we forgetting those?

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    9. "What about all the other models that Samsung has made that has bot combusted?"

      They only burned when in robots?

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  4. what does the note 7 have to do with this? might you be a Apple apologist?

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    1. The Note 7 is quite relevant. Since it is the most recent major cellphone blunder that we have to compare this apple situation to.

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    2. You have to know the diffrence between 1 is manufacture defect and 1 one careful plan scheme. If a 2 years old kid shot me with a gun will be diffirent then 20 years old smart person shot me with one.

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    3. The difference between a "mistake" and a "scheme" depends on where one's fanboy allegiances lie.

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    4. Sanctimonious MilkmanDecember 30, 2017 at 10:02 AM

      " If a 2 years old kid shot me with a gun will be diffirent then 20 years old smart person shot me with one"

      What is this, a Western ??

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    5. No I think it's the start of a gangsta math story problem.

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    6. Does the diffirence of the 2 years old kid drooling on my Boost Mobile iPhone after kid shot me compare to 1 manufacture defect like the Note 7 grenade, as apposed to the 20 years old person shot me & then steals my Boost Mobile iPhone as 1 careful plan scheme.?

      Either way, as long as we still around we will make sure it wont be forget anytime soon.

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    7. It's no worry with Boost. With Boost, the network slows down the iPhone so Apple doesn't have to.

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  5. Can't trust Apple. Millions suspected this for years.

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    1. The cooks are always right until they've been proven wrong, or unless they're clearly using a fake conspiracy to cover up the real one they themselves are involved in.

      You all know what I mean.

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    2. How many cooks are involved in this besides Tim?

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  6. Another way to look at this is that HTC, Moto, et al don't provide software updates for older phone but Apple does. ;-)

    One should assume noble intent with Apple's actions, but they could have saved face by providing users with a notice of the battery saving feature and a switch for them to turn it off it they wish.

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    1. Why would they provide a switch to turn it off? That isn't apple fashion. They want everything locked down so hard "for user experience". More like the "apple experience".

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    2. "Why would they provide a switch to turn it off? That isn't apple fashion. They want everything locked down so hard "for user experience". More like the "apple experience"."

      The loss of a good power switch was a long-ago "innovation" with Apple: they had it on early Macs and as a result a good power switch went away on PCs too.

      (Remembering the old IBM AT with the big red lever switch. Labelled on and off, I think? No obtuse heiroglyphics, very easy to use. The usability of this basic sort of function has degraded over the years, and has never been as good as on the IBM AT).

      Thank you, Apple!

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  7. This too shall blow over and be forgotten soon enough :) . Happy New Year.

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    1. As long as we still around, we will make sure it wont be forget anytime soon.

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    2. "As long as we still around, we will make sure it wont be forget anytime soon."

      Yeah, after all, we are still making antennagate jokes years later.

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  8. Samsung just admitted its Note 8 batteries have a problem. If you run down the battery it won’t restart or charge. Golly, this sounds worse than a phone that runs slower after it’s battery is 2-4 years old. Note 8 is a new phone.

    Who will go first to predict Samsung’s demise? They can’t seem to get batteries right, even though they produce them!

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    1. Well, at least samsung learned. Completely batteries are unstable and can catch fire or explode. So they kill them. Very thoughtful.

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    2. No, it's a bug. Properly designed power management systems shut off the phone to protect the battery before it becomes dangerous.

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    3. Thank you, Dennis. A lot of grasping at straws going on here.

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    4. "Completely (discharged -sic) batteries are unstable and can catch fire or explode. So they kill them."

      This may be correct in the case of Note 8 battery "failures." This might not be a "bug," despite what Samsung says. It might have been designed as a safety mechanism in Samsung power management software, perhaps due to Note 7 lessons learned.

      "1) Almost all LiIon/LiPoly batteries have a protection chip inside them that no-longer lets the battery power devices when the Cells voltage reach a certain level. The most common cut-off voltage is 2.8V but can be much higher in certain applications.
      2) Even after the protection chip cuts the cell off due to low voltage the CELL will continue to discharge at ~1-10uA. As a result eventually the CELL's voltage can reach 0V if not charged.
      3) Unknown to most is that if the cell reaches 0V it CAN be recharged.
      HOWEVER:
      3a) Letting the cell reach 0V can permanently reduce the CELL's capacity.
      >>>3b) Most protection cells are not designed to let the CELL be recharged after the cell's voltage is below 0V."<<<

      https://www.quora.com/Why-cant-lithium-batteries-be-recharged-once-they-reach-zero-percent

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  9. Don't know alot about battery issues and am an android user. It seems apple is employing underhanded endeavors that encourage new device purchase. Seems they are coddling those who this affects by reducing the price of purchasing new battery. Seems pretty shady.

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  10. Dear Samsung / LG, I'd be willing to trade slowing down the phone for much much much much faster and for 4 years of OS updates.

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